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#26: Jul 23rd 2020 at 11:09:21 AM

I still don't like the current/16 conceptually, but if it's the best we got...

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#27: Jul 23rd 2020 at 11:49:06 AM

16

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#28: Jul 24th 2020 at 9:55:04 AM

[up][up] If it's the best we got, then I say BUPKIS.

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#30: Aug 1st 2020 at 12:21:26 PM

16.

Edited by ccorb on Aug 1st 2020 at 3:21:29 PM

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#31: Aug 3rd 2020 at 6:53:27 AM

Crowner.

I included all options except for the one already on Insane Troll Logic. Also included "no pic" as an option.

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#33: Aug 5th 2020 at 6:34:22 PM

Crowner is leaning towards 16, so can we just swap it in and close the thread to lessen the backlog?

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#34: Aug 6th 2020 at 1:49:56 PM

[up] It will probably come to that. I cannot see this crowner ever ending with any image other than 16 at this point, as insane as that seems.

So happy we picked another Just a Face and a Caption image. That's just swell. I'm glad we went with the most recognizable image instead of one that's actually good.

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#35: Aug 6th 2020 at 1:57:55 PM

[up] 16 isn’t perfect, but it’s not JAFAAC. It’s more clearly a court scene, which makes the “defense” part more clear.

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#36: Aug 6th 2020 at 2:31:01 PM

[up] Look, that really doesn't help. You'd think it would, but it doesn't. Just because the guy is showing a picture of Chewbacca in a court scene doesn't say anything about his argument. Copyright and image right disputes are a thing. Chewbacca very well could be discussed for legitimate reasons in a court setting. We need the words coming out of his mouth. And we need the context that brought these words about to get why it's disconnected. There's no getting around that.

Edited by DBZfan102 on Aug 6th 2020 at 6:32:33 AM

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#37: Aug 6th 2020 at 2:32:48 PM

I agree mate, but the votes decide at this stage...

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#38: Aug 6th 2020 at 2:33:15 PM

[up] I know. Just wanted to say my piece.

Edited by DBZfan102 on Aug 6th 2020 at 6:39:12 AM

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#39: Aug 6th 2020 at 3:38:49 PM

Bit of a rude piece though, ain't it?

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#40: Aug 6th 2020 at 3:49:03 PM

[up] I tried to keep it polite, but I might have been venting from what happened with a suggestion I made. Still, though...

Edited by DBZfan102 on Aug 6th 2020 at 7:50:32 AM

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#41: Aug 6th 2020 at 4:08:31 PM

I don't see any previous comments from you on this thread? Either way, we could always start a new thread later if we have a better suggestion. It's a hard trope to illustrate but the current image isn't terrible since at least a rant about Chewbacca in a courtroom (with everyone else staring confused) indicates something ridiculous happening.

Edited by mightymewtron on Aug 6th 2020 at 7:08:32 AM

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#42: Aug 6th 2020 at 4:25:39 PM

[up] Sorry, I meant a suggestion thread I made. And, yeah. It's quite far from perfect, but until we find another better image, 16 is here to stay.

But are they staring confused, because they look more like they're paying close attention= Ah, screw it...

Edited by DBZfan102 on Aug 6th 2020 at 8:42:08 AM

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#43: Aug 6th 2020 at 9:34:34 PM

We need the words coming out of his mouth.
The caption tells us that; the only other way to show it would be in a speech bubble in a comic image, and I don't see how that'd be any better.

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#44: Aug 7th 2020 at 2:30:49 AM

[up] Like Spark9 said, that's why we have BUPKIS.

~mightymewtron, I just now realized you were the one who suggested the image I was complaining about earlier. I'm sorry about what I said. I was pissed and probably wouldn't have posted that any other day. I know what it's like to see someone treat your suggestion like it's crap and not know why.

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#45: Aug 7th 2020 at 2:45:15 AM

Nah it's fine, it was just my effort to find a better version of the current image, so I'm not emotionally attached to it or anything. I've been thumped for getting too sarcastic before so it was more concern for your tone getting you in trouble than any personal offense.

I just don't think it's so misleading we need to remove any image altogether. But I could go either way as long as we get rid of the low-quality current. Illustrative or not, it's pretty grainy.

Edited by mightymewtron on Aug 7th 2020 at 2:11:35 PM

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#46: Aug 7th 2020 at 3:06:53 AM

I agree that the suggestion doesn't show that the argument involving Chewbacca is a nonsensical one (and this is coming from someone who has seen that episode — the case actually does involve copyright, but not for Star Wars), but the crowner doesn't have a BUPKIS option; the closest is an option to simply pull the current.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 7th 2020 at 5:09:59 AM

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#47: Aug 7th 2020 at 3:10:13 AM

[up] It has 'no pic for now', but I'll add BUPKIS if you like.

Anyway, the more time I spend on Image Pickin', the more convinced I get that images are problematic if they illustrate the trope title rather than the actual trope. And it strikes me that both the current and the suggested #16 do precisely that.

Edited by Spark9 on Aug 7th 2020 at 3:11:28 AM

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#48: Aug 7th 2020 at 3:37:44 AM

Yeah, I was also thinking that images should not be unduly related to the trope namer especially when the trope is broader. I thus downvoted all Chewbacca suggestions in the crowner.

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#49: Aug 7th 2020 at 3:50:41 AM

I still think 16 illustrates the trope the best of any suggestions and is better than nothing, even if tropers can think of a very specific situation where Chewbacca could legitimately be presented to court.

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#50: Aug 7th 2020 at 3:56:25 AM

[up][up]There have been cases of images being pulled because their choice was based on the name regardless of the Trope Namer, without taking the description into account (such as this one, which I didn't post in). The current image on War Memorial was chosen not by a thread for that trope, but for The Dead Have Names (link to thread), due to issues with the previous image for the latter and the replacement suggestion better fitting the former and being an improvement over the former's previous image.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 7th 2020 at 6:26:37 AM

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ImagePickin: ChewbaccaDefense
3rd Aug '20 6:49:46 AM

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