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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#1: Jul 13th 2020 at 6:48:46 AM

It does show the trope namer, but a guy in a suit pointing at a picture of Chewbacca is by itself not enough to illustrate the trope (which is trying to win a debate through lengthy Insane Troll Logic).

Suggestion (panel 7+8), or last panel, or some frames of this one.

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#3: Jul 14th 2020 at 12:08:49 AM

1.1 and 1.2 are Talking Heads. 1.3 might work, but I'm not sure which panels we'd need to get the trope across.

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#4: Jul 14th 2020 at 2:49:04 AM

Can the second panel of this work?

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#5: Jul 14th 2020 at 7:48:31 AM

I'm not really a fan of any of the post 1 suggestions. The first two are functionally just text, and the third one doesn't really make sense unless you know what "delendo Carthago" means.

4 is probably the closest, but I'm not entirely sold on that one either.

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Morgenthaler Since: Feb, 2016
#6: Jul 14th 2020 at 10:50:13 AM

Given the trope's nature, you're probably going to rely on text either way. I'm not sure why the picture is being isolated for critique when it works in tandem with the caption.

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#7: Jul 14th 2020 at 10:51:29 AM

I mean...it's just a bad image anyway. All grainy and shit. If we need to keep it the least we can do is upgrade it so it looks less horrible.

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#8: Jul 14th 2020 at 10:57:27 AM

That's fair.

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#10: Jul 19th 2020 at 5:40:05 PM

Pull current, not sold on any of the suggestions. There's support for 4, but I'm not sure how it illustrates anything beyond a bad argument ("whatever").

Maybe this one from the examples? It shows confusion at the nonsensical argument.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/shortpackedchewbacca.png

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#11: Jul 19th 2020 at 6:03:37 PM

[up] Already on Insane Troll Logic; maybe replace the image on there?

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#12: Jul 19th 2020 at 6:04:45 PM

[up]Dangit. I think it works better there. Maybe?

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#14: Jul 19th 2020 at 6:33:20 PM

Keep with a quality upgrade. Seriously, what relevance could Chewbacca have in a court case?

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#15: Jul 19th 2020 at 6:42:20 PM

[up] How are we supposed to tell that it's a court case though? It just looks like a guy standing next to a screen with Chewbacca displayed on it.

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#16: Jul 19th 2020 at 6:52:38 PM

Higher-quality image of the Trope Namer that might better represent the courtroom scene.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screen_shot_2020_07_19_at_95218_pm.png

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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#18: Jul 19th 2020 at 11:50:19 PM

[up][up] That doesn't tell me it's a courtroom though. Is there a shot with a different angle, e.g. showing a judge or something?

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#19: Jul 20th 2020 at 12:00:55 AM

There is a jury in the background, and I feel the aesthetics make it clear enough that it's a courtroom. Unless I combine it with another image of the judge, I don't think there's another shot that shows both the Chewbacca image and the judge. It's not the best illustration of the trope but it is at least better than the current from the same scene.

I do like 4, but it's such a wide panel I don't know if it would look good on the page.

Edited by mightymewtron on Jul 20th 2020 at 3:11:28 PM

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#20: Jul 20th 2020 at 12:21:59 AM

It looks more like a normal class presentation to me, and the picture in no way resembles a court room.

Edited by Adept on Jul 21st 2020 at 3:23:08 AM

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#21: Jul 20th 2020 at 6:46:06 AM

[tup]16; I can tell that's a jury box.

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#22: Jul 20th 2020 at 6:52:21 AM

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#25: Jul 20th 2020 at 12:26:06 PM

It's not great, but it's better than the current.

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