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I honestly have no clue how common racism actually is now, because I think what you end up seeing on Twitter and the news doesn't necessarily reflect what you'll encounter in the real world. The people who don't experience this stuff aren't news, after all.
Anyways, I tweaked it some more, and it looks ready to be put back in:
Edited by PlasmaPower on Dec 14th 2021 at 12:01:59 PM
OK, looks good.
I put it back in the Advertising folder, which I think is the appropriate place for PSAs? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Dec 14th 2021 at 1:26:24 PM
YMMV.Der Fuehrers Face
The entries seem to contradict themselves on how well the Nazis were protrayed, not to mention the natter and the pothole to a NRLEP trope.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Dec 14th 2021 at 2:21:33 PM
We could remove the second sentence from VD, and merge the two bullet points in VR together into one example while removing the NRLEP pothole.
Remove the second sentence. If anything the true scope of the naziís crimes should make them even more acceptable to mock as it shows that you think their ideas are stupid and they never deserve to be given any credibility or dignity in their portrayal. At least thatís why I make fun of them.
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Dec 14th 2021 at 1:47:50 PM
Plus you know plenty of works even now make fun of them. There's no dissonance.
Actually, the VR entry might make more sense if I add context relating to the renewed attention towards neo-nazis around the late 2010s.
A VR entry on 'Der Fuhrer's Face'' should be about how it has aged better than most other propaganda cartoons of the time by focusing on the suffering of civilians under Nazi rule instead of gung-ho militarism, dunking on pacifists, or racial caricatures (they're there, but not the focus).
This was just added to YMMV.The Emperors New Groove. (Note that it's indented like there's more than one example when this is the only one.)
It mentions whitewashing controversy for Aladdin and Hunchback, but AFAIK no one has complained about TENG having white voice actors yet, especially since this is a silly comedy film that isn't meant to be a serious portrayal of indigenous American cultures like the original Kingdom of the Sun draft was.
I've cut it.
Harry Potter has this.
So apparently, ever since BLM, it is now offence to not have a minority stand-in be victims of police brutality or poverty?
Seriously, are people realy going to go "I just noticed non of the Muggle-born's get attacked/killed by police officers. THAT'S RACIST!"
Yeah, that's just complaining that the books don't go far enough. Plus it's all from Harry's perspective... He can't see and know everything.
I thought we already cut that.
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Dec 24th 2021 at 2:18:45 PM
Also this is you know a series set in the UK rather the US....
Where police tend to be less brutal in general. A large number of officers don't even use guns....
That sounds like fodder for an actual Values Dissonance example about the differences between what audiences in the UK and US expect.
I mean, if I had never heard of the books and picked them up for the first time right now as an American 20-something, the "police brutality" issue still wouldn't cross my mind. Like I said, not every social issue needs to be touched upon in the story. Harry doesn't know everything that goes on, and the story would probably be dragged down if we had to have an obligatory "Aurors beat a black wizard" scene just so Harry could go "damn, we live in a society don't we?" and never mention it again.
Values Resonance: Not just the racial issues, but the fact that in the end, Pocahontas is single and complete without a man, Bittersweet Ending though it is.
This entry from Pocahontas bothers me, as it implies a woman not falling in love with a man is automatically progressive, even though it clearly isn't.
Edited by AHauntedMind on Dec 25th 2021 at 7:45:52 PM
People are just gonna keep ignoring the sequel, aren't they?
It's a direct-to-video Disney sequel, of course people are going to ignore it.
Also, the example dosen't tell us what those racial issues are.
I found a Values Resonance on the YMMV page for Batman: Arkham Origins regarding the "Cold, Cold, Heart" DLC, that's more about how the "Heart of Ice" episode from Batman: The Animated Series was still good because the DLC kept the same basic plot.
First, an entry like this would make more sense on "Heart of Ice" than Arkham Origins. Second, this isn't really about how the themes or messages from the original episode still hold up, just the general quality of the episode.
Should it be cut?
Cut. It's more gushing about that episode than anything else.
I've removed the Harry Potter thing I mentioned.
Unfortunate Implications: The unfortunate message about gender roles in this movie didn't go unnoticed. Notoriously, its only real antagonist is a popular, athletic tomboy and a bully (without succumbing to the "mean girl" stereotype) who gets mind raped into becoming docile and feminine after being trapped, terrified, in a featureless, black void. Everyone in-universe sees as an improvement, with Runt in particular exclaiming "She's perfect!" and more or less forcing her to be his girlfriend against her will, giving the impression that it's more important for a girl to be liked by boys than be herself.
This Chicken Little example seems invalid to me, because the character is a bully. The brainwashing is supposed to be comeuppance, not a gender roles commentary.
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