Magic users don't inherently have to be skinny. I wished I saved it properly, but that thread pointed a particularly beefy male mage being an example.
I could see the rationale that having a strong body that could handle the magicial output. (Thinking of Deku from My Hero Academia, for example, who needed to work out in order to lessen the bodily damage One for All has on his body.) Having a general fit body is an underrated choice for dealing with exhaustive resources like that.
Furthermore, there could even be a multiplier benefit for having extra muscles *on top* of being magic-based. I'm reminded of how Jennifer Walters worked out in her base form, and once turning into She-Hulk, it actually increased the base strength of her gamma form.
In fact, most people don't really asked why (male) folks like Goku look like brickhouses, but generally have superhuman strength and durability inherent to his species that a toddler could reasonably cause havoc.
Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jul 14th 2021 at 4:57:13 AM
he's a brick houuuse, he's mighty mighty just letting it all hang out.
Honestly, all this discussion about Spanish-language dubbing has been really insightful and interesting. Bit of an unconventional learning experience here.
...what's wrong with girls being swole, Disney, jeez.
For additional context:
On the day Encanto's teaser came out, people were quick to highlight Luisa's unconventional (for Disney) thicker build being portrayed in a good light with super strength. Some people even thought that this was Disney Animation's higher-up being bold with the looser design choice.
However, according to character model supervisor Dylan Ekren
's tweet on that day, nah, Executive Meddling initially pushed back on the idea
.
Meaningful Appearance and Distinctive Appearances is...also a super duper important thing. There's a reason Mr. Incredible is built like a tank (for most of the movie) and his wife his not, or (to build on previous comparisons) why All Might's depowered form looks like he's about to keel over while his brickhouse form looks tall and heroic, or why Ezra Miller playing the Flash doesn't bulk up as much as Henry Cavill playing Superman. We're conditioned to think Muscles Are Meaningful, so we mentally associate the buff one with strength, and a Double Standard around that is disappointing, but not surprising.
I agree, but it can also be striking to have a character demonstrate super-human strength who doesn't look especially strong. The subversion of expectation can be a powerful thing; remember that in Avatar: The Last Airbender the team's biggest bruiser was a tiny blind girl.
Of course,Encanto's making the character a large, muscular woman is also a bit of a subversion of expectation, as you don't see many such female characters in any context.
Edited by Robbery on Jul 14th 2021 at 5:10:10 AM
Toph is great, but she's also not a Super-Strength character. Much is made of how she's genuinely a squishy, blind 10-year-old when her feet are off the earth. I am thinking more of Glacier Waif / Small Girl, Big Gun etc. characters who are... infantilized isn't the right word for it, but media is fine with women getting things done! As long as they're conventionally cute. It's annoying.
Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 14th 2021 at 7:40:39 AM
I do think it makes more sense for Super-Strength characters to not be very buff but the blatant double standard where guys with super strength are almost always buff as hell while girls with super strength remain thin as a rail makes me really enjoy subversions where girls with Super-Strength also get to be buff. So I'm very happy that the character designers were able to fight the Mouse enough to get Luisa to be muscular.
When we're done, there won't be anything left.Disney announced today that Encanto will play in theaters exclusively for 30 days
before coming to Disney+.
Calling 'Shang-Chi' an experiment was unfortunate phrasing but it looks like they're happy with the result.
I heard somewhere that this movie has some similarities to My Hero Academia and Black Clover.
Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!Not really. That comparison was used only to gauge the propensity of stories in recent memory using the setting of powerless person in some kind of world where everyone around them has a superpower.
There's not really any similarities to those series besides the basic plot hook.
Edited by slimcoder on Sep 29th 2021 at 7:45:01 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."I liked that the extended family
averts Latino Is Brown, with there being visibly black members (including the little boy who's prominent in the trailer) and one whiter-looking aunt/cousin/in-law.
Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 29th 2021 at 11:36:25 AM
I'm kind of split on this movie. On the plus side, I think the setting is cool, and I also really dig the idea of a Disney heroine who wears glasses and isn't conventionally sexy.
On the negative side, I'm kind of afraid this movie is going to follow the formula that Moana and Raya and the Last Dragon set up, with the heroine having to save her home, and an antagonist who gets redeemed at the end. The animal sidekicks (apparently a toucan and a jaguar this time) don't do much for me either.
Taken as a whole, it really seems like it will be repeating the issues Moana and Raya had, namely that it has an interesting setting and premise but is held back from fully embracing them by its adherence to Disney's formulas.
I agree. Formula is something basic while its the execution that really matters (the Renaissance films also had a formula), and I agree that Moana was really great with two greatly defined three dimensional characters and excellent music (imo it has the best Disney soundtrack since the 90's). On the other hand, Raya didn't do anything for, mainly because what they had for character development was to constantly remind Raya (and the audience) she has trust issues, the side characters weren't interesting either and I thought that the baby with the three monkies was stupid and was something out of a Dream Works/illumination movie, not a Disney one.
I would say Moana really got helped by being more direct and straightforward. There's less stuff sure but it manages to do all it has very well. Contrast to Raya which had too much stuff going on and wound up fumbling it because it couldn't handle it.
Hopefully Encanto is more of the former than the latter.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Can't wait for the soundtrack to be released. And honestly, the semi-Magic Realism aesthetic fits so well with the abundance of Disney forest detritus this time around.
One day, we will read his name in the news and cheer.

I'm fine with her being muscled, but I can kind of see the argument that if her strength is magical, then her muscles really don't have anything to do with it; if she's supernaturally strong, it would actually be really hard for her to build muscle, as it'd be difficult for her to tax her strength. I recall artist Gary Frank once explained his approach to Superman, which is to make him considerably leaner than a lot of other artists, by saying that Superman's strength doesn't have anything to do with his muscles.
Maybe the justification should be, given that she's super-strong, she's given to a lot of physical activity and as such stays pretty toned.
Edited by Robbery on Jul 14th 2021 at 1:11:47 AM