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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#1477: Jan 19th 2021 at 10:28:37 PM

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I don't think all cases of kancho necessarily fall under Ass Shove.

attempting to poke an unsuspecting victim's anus

[1]

Edited by Twiddler on Jan 19th 2021 at 10:28:56 AM

Malady (X-Troper)
#1478: Jan 21st 2021 at 1:48:39 PM

Was thinking about adding something like this to "Avoid This Area" Effect's description, because it seems like it needs to emphasize its broadness more... But sealing a room is different from telling people to go away...

Not sure if we have a trope for keeping people from entering instead of just a strong way of advising that they don't...

At its most ubiquitous and mundane, this trope can be achieved with a locked door. Note: the Locked Door trope is for the Stock Video Game Puzzle, which are also themselves ways to achieve this effect.

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Unnerving_Posterior Since: Feb, 2019
#1479: Jan 22nd 2021 at 3:48:30 PM

Edited by Unnerving_Posterior on Jan 22nd 2021 at 4:09:22 AM

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1480: Jan 23rd 2021 at 10:06:45 PM

I couldn't find it on Trope Finder, and I'm surprised we don't have it, but I'm considering a trope about when somebody breaks their limb and everybody gets very excited to sign their plaster cast. I'm struggling with a description and name but I can think of at least four examples.

[down] Yeah, I think it'd be a subtrope! Since not every Injured Limb Episode has people signing the cast, or even has a plaster cast to begin with.

[down][down] It's not always about the signature being huge, so that might be misleading.

Edited by mightymewtron on Jan 23rd 2021 at 2:04:48 PM

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Malady (X-Troper)
#1481: Jan 23rd 2021 at 10:12:52 PM

[up] - Highly connected to Injured Limb Episode.

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LoneWolfWilliam Veteran Procrastinator from Yo Mama's House Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Veteran Procrastinator
#1482: Jan 23rd 2021 at 10:33:08 PM

[up][up] Would "Plaster Cast Hancock" work as a potential title?

Keygen music is good
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#1483: Jan 24th 2021 at 9:40:31 PM

Continuing from the discussion on this page about a Self Representation trivia trope, I think it's a good idea, but I think Creator Shared Background might be a better name. Otherwise it risks making assumptions about creator intent. Not to mention, there are a lot of cases where the creator writing the character isn't the one who created them, but they were hired to write them in part because of their shared background.

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
sohibil Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1485: Jan 25th 2021 at 4:34:33 AM

I've been reading through several tropes about orgasm and noticed there's no trope covering forced orgasm. Rape tropes do not necessarily involve this. See below.

There are some incorrect examples in Jizzed in My Pants where characters (both male and female) are involuntarily brought to orgasm via direct physical stimulation by either other characters or inanimate objects. Incorrect because JIMP description excludes direct physical stimulation of genitals (or at least it should) and is only Played for Laughs. I know that Tropes Are Flexible but this one isn't flexible enough.

The difference between forced orgasm and rape is that rape is commited mainly for rapist's personal gain and does not necessarily cause the victim to have an orgasm. Also again the involuntary climax can be caused either by other character or an inanimate object and also accidentally as well as deliberatery.

There are certainly enough examples. I can list at least two right out of my memory:

  • To Love Ru where a girl is made to come by a fake electronic cat paw toy. It is listed as an example in Modest Orgasm despite not seeming very modest to me.
  • Boku Girl where a genderbent character is stuck over a tug-of-war rope moving vigorously in their crotch and causing them to climax. It is also listed as an example of Modest Orgasm as well as Jizzed in My Pants and a subversion of Potty Failure.

Forced orgasm definitely is a trope. It just needs enough wiki magic.

Edited by sohibil on Jan 25th 2021 at 1:50:10 PM

Malady (X-Troper)
#1486: Jan 25th 2021 at 6:27:20 AM

Well, Forced Orgasm should be available... But I suppose you're bringing it up here because you want someone else to sponsor it? Not me. My backlog isn't clear enough yet, I think.

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mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1487: Jan 25th 2021 at 8:21:45 AM

That sounds like a trope you'd wanna run by the P5 first.

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sohibil Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1488: Jan 25th 2021 at 10:11:59 AM

[up]That's exactly why I'm proposing it here. Even though in my opinion it doesn't really violate the No Lewdness, No Prudishness policy. Otherwise also the other "orgasmic" tropes should've been considered lewd.

Or to put it differently - it's not really in the trope itself. It's in how the examples are described.

Should I start a thread in the Content Violation Discussion?

Edited by sohibil on Jan 25th 2021 at 7:41:16 PM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#1489: Jan 25th 2021 at 10:53:08 AM

[up] Yeah, ask there, they'll be better at answering.

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sohibil Since: Dec, 2020 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1490: Jan 25th 2021 at 11:37:27 AM

[up]There is a problem though. None of the unlocked threads there are exactly about what I want to ask and I'm not allowed to start a new thread in that forum.

Any hints?

Edit: Another example of this trope is in Ghost Talker's Daydream where the heroine got off involuntary when her clientnote  went down on her by surprise. At least Technical Virgin example states it was involuntary.

And aforementioned To Love Ru apparently seems to be rife with this.

Edited by sohibil on Jan 25th 2021 at 11:33:17 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#1491: Jan 25th 2021 at 9:22:58 PM

[up] Couldn't "Content Violations Discussion" work?

Anyway, an I got when thinking about alantutorial:

  • Forced To Create: A character is forced, against their will, to create something for someone else. Maybe they were always into the craft but are now being made to do it instead of getting a choice in the matter, or maybe they were only recently pushed into it. The resulting material tends to be either weaker than the original stuff (for lacking proper motivation and creativity), or the character tries to rebel, or they have to push themselves harder than they normally would to keep up with the demands.

Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 25th 2021 at 12:23:09 PM

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jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
SMILE!
#1493: Jan 25th 2021 at 9:34:03 PM

[up][up] That sounds like a workable idea to me; Misery is an example that comes to mind.

Edited by jandn2014 on Jan 25th 2021 at 12:34:17 PM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#1494: Jan 25th 2021 at 9:36:09 PM

Yeah, the idea I had from alantutorial involves Alan being forced to make his tutorials against his will, turning it from his own fun hobby to something he's being made to do for other people, and when he rebels he faces punishments such as getting locked out of his house permanently, beaten up, or being given dangerous objects to make tutorials with (such as knives or glue).

Since it's workable, we can at least chuck it into the Salvage Yard; I have too many (admittedly neglected) drafts on my hands right now to want to make another new one, so if anyone else cares to take it, be my guest.

Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 25th 2021 at 12:37:40 PM

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TokoWH Professional Lurker Since: Jan, 2011
Professional Lurker
#1495: Jan 26th 2021 at 4:38:43 PM

So I posted this in Ask the Tropers and was directed here. For those who don't want to click a link:

"So something occurred to me after finding out Better as a Let's Play exists.

Do you think Better With A Guide could be a viable trope? I know there are plenty of games I've tried to play in the past that I didn't really enjoy at first, but once I found some competent walkthroughs/maps I ended up enjoying immensely more. (The Legend of Zelda I, Metroid 1, Digimon World)

I feel like if we have stuff like Better as a Let's Play and Enjoy the Story, Skip the Game, there might be something here. I'm just worried it might be considered The Same, but More Specific version of Guide Dang It!."

Any thoughts on this?

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1496: Jan 26th 2021 at 5:06:21 PM

I think that's covered by Guide Dang It! and All There in the Manual. It's kind of a given that a walkthrough will help you better understand the game.

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Makir Since: Feb, 2017
#1497: Jan 27th 2021 at 11:15:21 AM

Do we have this one already?

For The Money

A character's primary motivation is either becoming rich or mantaining their wealth. Most often seen with thieves, robbers, mercenaries, the Corrupt Corporate Executive, etc. A sort of Sister Trope to For the Evulz and For the Lulz.

The tope that seems to be closest to it (and what the above link will send to) is Only in It for the Money, but that only states that a character does something good for money, while the above is more of a general motivation.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#1498: Jan 27th 2021 at 11:22:36 AM

[up] Are you sure that's specifically about doing good things? The description doesn't really say that. If it's true, I'd rather have that expanded than make an "evil" version.

Edited by WarJay77 on Jan 27th 2021 at 2:22:57 PM

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Makir Since: Feb, 2017
#1499: Jan 27th 2021 at 11:32:00 AM

From the Laconic version of the trope:

"A character does good so he can get paid."

From the Playing With page:

Basic Trope: A "hero" who is entirely motivated by monetary gain.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#1500: Jan 27th 2021 at 11:34:23 AM

Laconics are very often misleading, so I wouldn't trust them in isolation, though the Playing With page does add some more evidence. Still, in this case wouldn't it make more sense to get the trope expanded, rather than make a version that's only slightly different?

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