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With that out of the way: Let's discuss some ideas.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

Sajulga Since: Feb, 2021
#6501: May 1st 2023 at 3:35:01 AM

@Malady, no it's something like where you see many times like where people from all around the world are hearing something so intense, it gets attention from the whole world, either shocked, surprised, or even puzzled to something serious or supernatural.

Sajulga Since: Feb, 2021
#6502: May 1st 2023 at 6:36:12 AM

Perhaps the trope should be called Worldwide Phenomenon? Can be either mundane or supernatural.

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#6503: May 2nd 2023 at 3:18:19 AM

I've had a trope idea for a while: A character temporarily wearing a mascot costume for something;them being embarrassed is optional (example; The Ono Michio subquest from Yakuza 6). Idk if we have a trope for this already but I want to bring this up because I think it might be tropeworthy.

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#6504: May 2nd 2023 at 4:08:05 PM

I feel like the One Inch Punch could have a trope page. However, I have very little knowledge of martial arts, so I'm afraid that any attempt at making a TLP draft will result in me humiliating myself.

number9robotic (Experienced Trainee)
#6505: May 2nd 2023 at 8:46:49 PM

I've seen some people writing entries based on "subverting" What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs? by presenting stories of how the author/creator of a work was influenced by drugs during its creation. Perhaps it might be too blue of a phenomenon to highlight, but I do wonder if "based on drug-induced intoxication/inebriation/whatever experience" might make for an interesting Trivia trope a la Based on a Dream.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#6506: May 3rd 2023 at 1:32:23 PM

[up][up]There's a Wikipedia article on this topic that may help you come up with ideas want to put in a draft (in addition to, several mentions of the "One-Inch Punch" already on TVT that you can search for with "New Search" turned off).

Overall, apart from mentioning how Bruce Lee came to popularize this technique, I wouldn't be overly concerned about the exact history or logistics behind it. As tropers, our primary concerns are only how and where it may appear in media and fiction.

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#6507: May 3rd 2023 at 1:36:41 PM

IDK, if it's just a martial art's technique IDK if it qualifies as a trope.

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#6508: May 3rd 2023 at 2:08:03 PM

It's not really a technique used in combat, more of a training or demonstration. But fiction often treat as a super powerful attack, so I think it's tropable.

Edited by TotemGenitor on May 3rd 2023 at 11:08:13 AM

selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
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#6509: May 3rd 2023 at 2:35:06 PM

If there's significance behind the technique like it's awesome or quick or whatever purpose it shows up in media then it's not a bad idea, otherwise, it'll look like "this martial arts technique exists" kinda draft.

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#6510: May 3rd 2023 at 2:50:06 PM

It's treated both ways. There are many references here on this wiki to Bruce Lee's demonstrations, that would just be "this technique exists," but in other works of fiction it can be used to accomplish spectacular feats, like The Bride in Kill Bill Vol 2 using it to punch her way out of a coffin after being buried alive.

ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#6511: May 3rd 2023 at 3:16:05 PM

Would "animal cruelty in childhood as an early indicator of someone growing up to be a bad person" be tropeworthy? Because I can think of multiple examples in media of a villain or other unsavory character being established as having abused animals in childhood, or a child who abuses animals growing up to be a terrible person.

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#6513: May 3rd 2023 at 3:23:09 PM

Bad People Abuse Animals + Early Personality Signs? Not sure if the combo is unique enough. [nja] on the first one

Edited by Synchronicity on May 3rd 2023 at 5:23:24 AM

SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#6514: May 3rd 2023 at 3:38:06 PM

[up][up][up]I'm associating what you're describing with the Macdonald Triad and the three most common behaviors in childhood that are later associated with people who become troubled adults and dangerous serial criminals—setting fires, cruelty to animals, and wetting the bed. It's mentioned on a few works pages on this wiki, usually works about profiling Serial Killers.

Edited by SeanMurrayI on May 3rd 2023 at 3:42:46 AM

amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#6515: May 3rd 2023 at 4:04:59 PM

I don't think it's unique from Bad People Abuse Animals. It's just using that to foreshadow that this kid will grow up to be a bad person. The significance is still just "you wouldn't hurt animals if you weren't a bad/cruel person/person-in-the-making". If anything, the description could mention that this is a common use of the trope, if it doesn't already.

Edited by amathieu13 on May 3rd 2023 at 7:07:32 AM

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#6516: May 3rd 2023 at 4:22:21 PM

The description of that trope already mentions the serial killer and childhood angle so I believe we are good there.

Edited by MacronNotes on May 3rd 2023 at 7:22:30 AM

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#6517: May 3rd 2023 at 7:55:26 PM

Is Allergic To The Opposite Sex a valid trope on its own? Like a guy breaking into hives when touched by a girl?

amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#6518: May 3rd 2023 at 7:59:15 PM

[up]Like an even more exaggerated form of Cannot Talk to Women? I'd say so, though, check to see that Allergic to Love doesn't already cover it. I can't really tell from the description, tbh, though some of the on page examples seem in line with the concept

Edited by amathieu13 on May 3rd 2023 at 11:06:31 AM

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#6519: May 4th 2023 at 11:38:53 PM

Is there an In-Universe version of Wangst where a character’s angst is portrayed in a whiney or pathetic light?

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#6520: May 5th 2023 at 10:40:05 AM

For what it's worth, I also think the "inspired by inebriation" trivia item is worthwhile and I've always wanted "...Made On Drugs" to be retooled as such. The absence of drugs is not interesting but the presence is.

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#6521: May 5th 2023 at 10:44:53 AM

[up] That actually sounds like a legit idea. I remember hearing that The Wall was partially inspired by Roger Waters’ acid use, so that’s at least one possible example I know.

EDIT: See below comments

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on May 5th 2023 at 8:34:32 AM

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#6522: May 5th 2023 at 12:00:00 PM

[up][up][up] This question is more suitable for Trope Finder, but there's Quit Your Whining and No Sympathy for when it's other characters who view them this way.

I don't think there's an In-Universe version of that yet.

Edited by selkies on May 5th 2023 at 9:05:01 PM

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SeanMurrayI Since: Jan, 2010
#6523: May 5th 2023 at 1:59:18 PM

[up][up][up]On this topic, I would be mindful of the different ways mind-altering substances play a role in art. It's not as simple as associating a work with drugs; there is nuance.

There's plenty of examples like [up][up]the Mayor's with vague details about works "inspired" by drugs.

There are movies like The Trip (1967) that are literally an attempt to simulate the experience of tripping on drugs, and most everyone involved in the movie took drugs to prepare for its production.

And then there are anecdotes of people actually on drugs as something was being produced, such as The Beatles being high on marijuana for much of the time that they filmed Help!, which is often cited as the main reason why many of their lines are flubbed or don't make much sense.

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#6524: May 5th 2023 at 5:13:17 PM

[up] Well in all fairness I don’t actually remember the story about the Wall. I heard it secondhand online somewhere — forgive me for being vague.

You do have a point though that such a trope could be unclear. Maybe with some definition fine-tuning?

EDIT: Did some research and I was dead wrong. Ignore my possible example. That’s what I get for not doing basic research.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on May 5th 2023 at 8:15:36 AM

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#6525: May 5th 2023 at 8:22:40 PM

Ideally I was thinking we'd only take examples that were made with the crew and/or cast using drugs, if Word of God confirms there was a direct impact of drug use (or alcohol maybe) on the work.

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