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On this thread, you can share your ideas with the masses before making that TLP draft, so if there's any lingering uncertainty about the validity of your idea or you just want some help pinning down a good idea, ask away and help others out, too!

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With that out of the way: Let's discuss some ideas.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

TheLibrarian1701 Since: Dec, 2022
#5977: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:38:03 AM

I would like one more example for All's well justification, just in case the Sonohana example is disallowed after all.

freygrilledcheese The Fool from District Court (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: All is for my lord
The Fool
#5978: Feb 17th 2023 at 10:40:59 AM

[up][up] Thanks for the examples! I was thinking of "Hair To Remember", but of course everything will be subject to feedback once I post a draft on TLP.

OBJECTION!
Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#5979: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:31:18 AM

[up]How about Hair Memento?

Edited by Nen_desharu on Feb 17th 2023 at 2:31:45 PM

Kirby is awesome.
Jadabunz Since: Dec, 2018 Relationship Status: Naked on a bearskin rug, playing the saxophone
#5980: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:41:31 AM

Have we a trope for Blue-Collar Coveralls?

The basic idea is blue-collar clothing as a visual shorthand for someone with a menial labor based job. They can often be grouped by style and job:

  • Mechanics usually are shown wearing dark blue boilersuits, often oil-stained.
  • Maintenance/custodial/janitorial workers often wear dark grey jumpsuits, usually short-sleeved or with the sleeves rolled up. Sometimes accompanied by a tool belt.
  • Farmers wear overalls or dungarees, often patched and faded from outdoor work.
  • Painters/drywallers will be shown in white overalls, usually spattered with paint or plaster.

Note that the above examples can mix and match various clothing items and colors, and may include accessories like fingerless gloves, work boots, bandanas, and baseball caps.

Apart from establishing a character as blue-collar, the uniform can be a quick way for a character to pull off a Bavarian Fire Drill in a professional setting, as laborers tend to be overlooked and given access to surprisingly sensitive areas. If the protagonist wears them, he's probably a Working-Class Hero. If an attractive woman does, it will often lead to a Fanservice moment of her undressing.

Examples include:

  • Halloween: Michael Myers murders a mechanic on his way back to Haddonfield and steals his boilersuit, which makes a handier disguise than the hospital gown he escaped the mental institution in.

  • Scrubs: The Janitor's Iconic Outfit is a dark grey shirt and slacks, and he's rarely seen wearing anything else. One episode features him trading it for a nice blue jumpsuit, but he switches back when he realizes no one fears him in it.

  • Roseanne: When working in drywall, Dan almost always wears a pair of grungy white overalls. In later seasons, when he works in his motorcycle shop and the Lanford city garage, he wears an equally grungy denim jumpsuit.

Edited by Jadabunz on Feb 17th 2023 at 11:42:24 AM

freygrilledcheese The Fool from District Court (Handed A Sword) Relationship Status: All is for my lord
The Fool
#5981: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:43:48 AM

[up][up] I posted a draft using your suggestion as the title.

OBJECTION!
MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#5982: Feb 17th 2023 at 11:48:19 AM

[up][up]Covered by this TLP

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 17th 2023 at 2:48:38 PM

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selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#5983: Feb 17th 2023 at 12:54:52 PM

Is a Love Rival draft, which is a split-off/Sub-Trope of The Rival, worth having its separate trope?

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Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#5984: Feb 17th 2023 at 3:07:24 PM

[up][up][up]Thanks.

Kirby is awesome.
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#5985: Feb 18th 2023 at 1:35:27 PM

I've noticed a stock Take That! where improv is always treated as a particularly obnoxious form of comedy for self-centered Large Hams, and I think it could be worth its ow trope page for when improv is stereotyped negatively in the media. Maybe call it "Improv Is For Imbeciles."

[down] Yep, that'd be comparable!

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 18th 2023 at 4:48:59 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#5987: Feb 18th 2023 at 6:32:48 PM

There is Revolting Rescue for situations in which a character does a heroic action through a revolting and gross mean, but is there a trope for when the character must escape from a threat in a way they consider to be undignified, such as having to go down into a sewer or a trash can to hide? It could be used both for comedy and drama.

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mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#5988: Feb 18th 2023 at 6:34:33 PM

Garbage Hideout for the second one (it was the first trope I ever drafted that got launched)

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#5989: Feb 18th 2023 at 7:00:56 PM

Any thoughts on this idea?

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mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#5990: Feb 18th 2023 at 7:08:51 PM

Is it distinct from other elements of Love Triangle / Triang Relations?

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selkies TOO serious! from Guess, guess, guess Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Star-crossed
TOO serious!
#5991: Feb 18th 2023 at 7:19:05 PM

It's a subtrope but it can happen in harems and love dodecahedrons. It tropes how person C and B, who both love person A, view each other, but not all C and B persons involved in a love triangle are rivals. They can be close friends/sisters, etc. So this isn't an essential part of love triangles, just a common subtrope under it.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#5992: Feb 18th 2023 at 11:34:09 PM

Might've brought up this idea a while ago, but I'm drafting a trope for something called Flirtatious Pin Down, summarized as "When a character pushes another character down on to their back and leans over them with romantic or flirtatious intentions." Essentially, the more suggestive, floor version of Wall Pin of Love. One of those, seen it everywhere but nothing's coming to mind right now tropes, so if anyone can think of an example, would appreciate it.

Edited by amathieu13 on Feb 18th 2023 at 2:34:21 PM

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#5993: Feb 19th 2023 at 1:19:45 AM

[up] Coincidentally, I was rereading the thread today and came across the posts where you brought it up: [1] [2]

I was going to say "Unfortunately I'm in a similar boat: rings a bell, can't think of examples" but then I remembered one at the last second:

  • Kiznaiver: In a flashback in episode 7, Ruru flips Honoka onto her back on a bed, holding her down by the shoulders. Ruru brings up sex scenes in manga and suggests that Honoka doesn't want to draw one because she can't, having no experience in the matter. When Honoka points out that Ruru doesn't either, Ruru suggests that they find out and slowly leans in to kiss her. Honoka ends up shoving her off at the last second. The scene is intercut with pages from the manga on the table next to them, where a similar scene is playing out between its characters, but ends with a kiss.

amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#5994: Feb 19th 2023 at 1:47:29 AM

[up]very fortuitous! thanks! I'm going to post the draft after adding this example.

ETA: draft up

Edited by amathieu13 on Feb 19th 2023 at 4:59:06 AM

PumpkinKid Since: Aug, 2022
#5995: Feb 19th 2023 at 3:56:17 AM

We have CheekCopy, but not something such as Face Copy even though someone getting their face copied happens way more often..

I was thinking about starting a Trope Launch Pad for it, but I suck at making those.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#5996: Feb 19th 2023 at 10:21:13 AM

Personally I've only seen Cheek Copy, so I'm not sure if it is "way more common", but maybe it's just that I'm watching the wrong works.

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mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#5997: Feb 19th 2023 at 12:01:20 PM

Maybe a missing supertrope then? Fun With Photocopiers?

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#5999: Feb 19th 2023 at 2:41:28 PM

Fun With Photocopiers can also include photocopying banknotes.

Kirby is awesome.
amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#6000: Feb 19th 2023 at 3:00:17 PM

[up]that's stretching the idea into a different trope. Copying money for counterfit and fraud is different than photocopying silly faces and your butt just for fun or for to pull a prank.


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