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Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

PhantomDusclops92 Nitpicky Nitwit from Italy Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Nitpicky Nitwit
#3676: Feb 23rd 2022 at 11:16:26 AM

I have a very few examples in mind. Like, I realize that there aren't many of notice outside of "Most fanart of Ash in drag as "Ashley" are based on a shot where the shoes are miscolored".

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#3677: Feb 23rd 2022 at 11:18:00 AM

Yeah, that seems a bit overly-specific. I think going general is a better idea here. Make it a subtrope of Alternative Character Interpretation or Fanon or something.

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#3678: Feb 23rd 2022 at 12:09:14 PM

I was thinking of making a Reading Glasses Gag trope where characters pull out glasses to read out documents. I know I have seen it before on older cartoons. The only reason I remember this trope idea was because I found an old TF query of mine on my query history page and I didn't get a response.

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#3679: Feb 23rd 2022 at 12:10:41 PM

Might even be expandable into a more general "hammerspace glasses gag", as I can think of some uses that aren't for reading.

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#3681: Feb 23rd 2022 at 4:37:32 PM

Inexperienced Mentor: A mentor with limited experience. I have one example: in Beasts of Burden the main characters become junior apprentices, and their main mentor is Miranda, who, while much more experienced than them is still only an apprentice herself (but not a junior one).


Climbing Vine Handholds: Ascending or descending a wall by using climbing plants as handholds. Shows up in The Legend of Zelda and "Talma Gordon". (I thought I remembered it being in Knives Out too, but it was actually the trellis that was being climbed, not the plants themselves.)

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#3682: Feb 23rd 2022 at 4:44:04 PM

[up] I remember it being in Pokémon Ranger Shadows Of Almia. (The vine one to be clear)

Also have some examples for the first one.

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 23rd 2022 at 7:44:28 AM

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#3683: Feb 23rd 2022 at 5:10:52 PM

I was going through my Trope Finder inquiries, and found one that I think I want to try to spin into something, provided we don't already have it. It's the type of snarky comment where your response to something is "I'll take [X] for $[Y], Alex" as a parody of selecting answers in Jeopardy!. Someone mentioned that this happens in JonTron and Game Grumps videos but I have no idea which ones they'd be in. Does anyone know where those would be, or some other instances of this?

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#3685: Feb 23rd 2022 at 5:53:16 PM

Yeah, that feels at best suited for a ReferencedBy.Jeopardy page... which we have.

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#3686: Feb 23rd 2022 at 11:27:53 PM

This is one that I realized feels rather obvious, and like something we should already have, but I'll still pitch it anyway: "Sneaking out at Night", which is almost always portrayed as a risky, fun adventure (especially in kid's works), where there's a time limit on how long you have to succeed and the possibility of getting caught.

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#3687: Feb 24th 2022 at 12:38:37 AM

If we don't have that I'd be all for a TLP for it.

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#3688: Feb 24th 2022 at 1:17:51 AM

I wanted to make it tonight, but I'm tired, so the draft'll be up when I get up tomorrow.

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#3689: Feb 24th 2022 at 5:41:05 AM

We have Caught Coming Home Late but not for sneaking out in general, surprisingly.

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#3690: Feb 24th 2022 at 8:07:43 AM

Musing on a "Miss X" pun, a naming convention and title trope based on putting "Miss" in lieu of mis- for a word that begins with the latter, usually to refer to a young woman. The name "Miss Fortune" shows up in League of Legends and Pokémon Legends: Arceus (both ironic, because the former is a pirate and the latter a gang of bandits), Elementary has an episode titled "Miss Taken" which features a young woman who turns out to be an impostor, and Didjits have an EP titled "Little Miss Carriage".

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#3692: Feb 24th 2022 at 8:18:11 AM

I can think of several examples off the top of my head. BoJack Horseman has the "Ms. Taken" movie, and that "Miss Carrie" Oblivious Guilt Slinging gag might also count.

Epic Rap Battles of History also has the line "You lost so many babies, we should call you Miss Carriage" in Cleopatra vs. Marilyn Monroe.

EDIT: Oh, and South Park has an episode with a holistic medicine saleswoman named Miss Information.

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 24th 2022 at 12:01:37 PM

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#3693: Feb 24th 2022 at 8:19:38 AM

Oooh, thanks! Will sit on this.

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#3694: Feb 24th 2022 at 11:53:36 AM

Pity Relationship / Pity Date: I asked if we had this on Trope Finder two years ago and couldn't find it. Basically, someone enters a relationship with someone just because they don't want to feel bad about rejecting them. Pity Sex is the closest but I have seen plenty of non-sexual examples in media for it to be it's own trope. I just don't remember them because I don't watch too many shows these days. I'll probably pick up on that to if I can find some examples.

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#3695: Feb 24th 2022 at 11:55:45 AM

There's Boq and Nessarose from Wicked; Boq only asked her out to impress Glinda, but then felt too guilty to admit it and got stuck in the relationship. She even asks if he's only with her because he feels bad for her.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#3696: Feb 24th 2022 at 12:20:06 PM

^^While I do think that's tropeable, I'm not sure it warrants an entire trope for what is essentially the PG-13 version of Pity Sex. I would be all down for expanding Pity Sex to include non-sexual versions though

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#3697: Feb 24th 2022 at 12:21:57 PM

Eh, from what I have seen it's not played the same. And expanding to cover relationships would essentially be changing the definition.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 24th 2022 at 3:23:30 PM

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#3698: Feb 24th 2022 at 12:23:01 PM

IDK if I agree with that. A date / relationship involves a lot more emotional connection and time than a simple kiss or night in bed would have. Dating someone because you feel bad for them necessitates more time, money and effort spent on that person, especially if you get stuck in a long-term relationship.

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#3699: Feb 24th 2022 at 12:25:47 PM

We can't expand tropes to cover future use, and Pity Date is definitely a thing I've seen a few times, though one can follow the other.

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#3700: Feb 24th 2022 at 12:28:06 PM

In a lot of Pity Sex examples, the one character just has sex with the loser one just because and it's not given any emotional weight because it was only supposed to be a one time thing. I think that's a different from starting a relationship just because you didn't have the heart to reject them.

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