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With that out of the way: Let's discuss some ideas.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#3576: Feb 6th 2022 at 10:34:13 AM

Do we have a trope for blood-drinking in general? That feels emblematic, but the closest I see is Vampiric Draining and Life Drinker, both of which have more to do with life in general than with blood. An user at trope finder mentioned I Do Not Drink...Wine, but I still think it is too broad.

Edited by good-morning on Feb 6th 2022 at 3:34:41 PM

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Malady (X-Troper)
#3577: Feb 6th 2022 at 10:37:42 AM

Hemo Erotic is closer.

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amathieu13 Since: Aug, 2013
#3578: Feb 6th 2022 at 11:01:55 AM

[up][up]Outside of the tropes listed (and Bloodlust) what more would there be to cover?

the act of drinking blood isn't a trope in of itself without the meaning its used to convey in the narrative imo

Edited by amathieu13 on Feb 6th 2022 at 2:03:29 PM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#3579: Feb 6th 2022 at 11:07:30 AM
good-morning Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles from Brazil Since: Nov, 2021
Lord Something, Forgetter of Cool Titles
#3580: Feb 6th 2022 at 11:10:09 AM

Yeah, I think so

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#3581: Feb 6th 2022 at 1:41:16 PM

Okay, I remembered my idea.

It was the idea of characters almost being late. The dramatic scene of them rushing, dealing with random obstacles, and stressing just to make it somewhere in the last second before they're out of time.

We have Just in Time and Race Against the Clock, but both of those are way more high-stakes and heroic than what I'm thinking of.

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PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#3582: Feb 6th 2022 at 9:03:16 PM

Made a draft out of this post.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Feb 6th 2022 at 12:03:23 PM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#3583: Feb 6th 2022 at 9:04:03 PM
Malady (X-Troper)
#3584: Feb 7th 2022 at 9:33:03 PM

Was going to put the latter in Significant Name Overlap, but a trope for "A family repeats names" is something we don't have, last I checked? Even for royal families reusing names, I think?:

Cute Knight Kingdom

  • Michiko. [Note: Search that page, you know what you mean.]
  • Family Theme Naming: The innkeeper John, whose father and grandfather were also named John. If the PC marries him, they end up having a daughter whom they name Johanna.


What's a good name for the concept, so I can drop it in the Salvage Yard?

Note to Self: Feed Name Nameson draft to that broader concept.

Family Repeat Naming? Like Repetitive Name and Family Theme Naming? But is Repeat Naming too ambiguous and sounds like it could mean Repetitive Name "Exact" type, Surname = First name, like Johnson Johnson?

Edited by Malady on Feb 7th 2022 at 9:40:39 AM

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#3585: Feb 8th 2022 at 1:31:54 AM

"Sudden Unexpected Fieldtrip"- A subtrope of Artistic License – Education where teachers can just announce fieldtrips at random with no permission slips or anything, and everyone rolls with it. It pops up in places like Dhar Mann videos and Tandy Computer Whiz Kids, and I think it might've been in House of Anubis as well (even if downplayed, as it was a trip for the graduating class of a boarding school, but still).

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 8th 2022 at 4:32:28 AM

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HoloMew151 Space Gal from From Deep, Deep Space Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Tweaking my holographic boyfriend
Space Gal
#3586: Feb 8th 2022 at 9:34:49 AM

Haven’t seen that trope at all, unfortunately. It sounds like a good idea.

Also, is there anything to do with dilating doors malfunctioning. I figured it could be used for drama (like trapping people into some place) or for showing that the building is so poor quality or in disrepair that the doors don’t even work properly.

Edited by HoloMew151 on Feb 8th 2022 at 5:35:06 PM

Palindromee Relax, Ice Queen. from the Celestial Wasteland (Y2K) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
#3587: Feb 8th 2022 at 3:08:07 PM

I discussed an idea here—an inversion (?) of Meet Cute, where a couple's first meeting is disastrous, embarrassing, results in them hating each other, dangerous, etc. I've seen this before but can't recall any specific examples; I think it's fairly common for cases of Battle Couples and Belligerent Sexual Tension.

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3588: Feb 8th 2022 at 3:10:10 PM

The description already seems to include that.

A meet-cute is almost always rife with awkwardness, embarrassment, and sometimes outright hostility. [...]

Possibly they have an instant dislike for one another. Maybe they crash into each other in a hallway and papers fly about. Maybe one of them has been shopping for ISO-Standard Urban Groceries and trips over the other walking down the street. Perhaps mistaken identity or other wacky misunderstanding is involved. Sometimes someone is naked or in an otherwise embarrassing situation.

Edited by Twiddler on Feb 8th 2022 at 3:10:57 AM

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#3589: Feb 8th 2022 at 3:11:42 PM

^ Though a subtrope split couldn't hurt.

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Palindromee Relax, Ice Queen. from the Celestial Wasteland (Y2K) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
#3590: Feb 8th 2022 at 3:22:29 PM

Yeah, it struck me as odd that they're both under the same umbrella. If it means anything, fanfic culture (where the term is used frequently) seems to distinguish cleanly between the two.

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Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#3591: Feb 8th 2022 at 3:43:38 PM

I'm not familiar with any split in the meaning in fandom, but outside of fandom, the term seems to be broader.

Here's a couple sources talking about different types of meet-cute [1] [2]

  • Pull / Pull — the characters are instantly and mutually attracted to each other
  • Push / Push — the characters are instantly and mutually disinterested in each other
  • Push / Pull — one character is instantly attracted but the other character is disinterested
  • Neutral / Nervous — one character awkwardly tries to hide their attraction while the other character is oblivious to the situation

Looking at Fanlore... ah I see, some people use "meet-ugly".

Palindromee Relax, Ice Queen. from the Celestial Wasteland (Y2K) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
#3592: Feb 8th 2022 at 4:00:27 PM

Yep, that's the one. This specific subtrope would probably apply only to the Push - Push variant.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#3593: Feb 9th 2022 at 12:27:43 AM

I just remembered an idea I had years ago for a "handheld game ghetto" audience reaction, where handheld games are generally under the radar and aren't nearly as critically acclaimed as their console counterparts. Like, when was the last time you saw a handheld game on a "best games of all time" list? However, this seems more like a Trope in Aggregate, so I'm not sure what examples it could collect. (Franchises where the console games are almost always more popular? Games that broke out of the ghetto? Award Snub victims?)

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#3594: Feb 9th 2022 at 12:29:01 AM

[up] I mean... Pokemon?

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#3595: Feb 9th 2022 at 4:06:54 AM

[up][up]That sounds like a good idea if we stick to series that originated on consoles (meaning Pokémon wouldn't count, since it was originally primarily a handheld series and the console games were spinoffs until the main series moved to the Nintendo Switch). I can't say I've ever seen anyone think of Super Mario Land or Super Mario Land 2 as highly as the NES and SNES installments of the Super Mario Bros. series (and I say that as someone who likes them). They're probably more well regarded now than they used to be, but around when the series first made its Video Game 3D Leap, the NES and SNES games were probably the go-to examples of 2D Mario games, at least from what I remember of the '90s and early 2000s; at the very least, the NES and the SNES installments were the only 2D games that were the subject of Mythology Gags in the 3D games.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 9th 2022 at 6:21:41 AM

I got a rock for Halloween.
ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#3596: Feb 9th 2022 at 9:02:50 AM

I wonder if there might be merit to a Does Not Like Spam equivalent for people who dislike wearing specific articles of clothing.

Malady (X-Troper)
#3597: Feb 9th 2022 at 9:04:02 AM

Such as? We have Does Not Like Shoes and Hates Wearing Dresses...

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#3598: Feb 9th 2022 at 10:28:36 AM

[up][up][up][up]Pokémon is a franchise that breaks out of the ghetto. [up][up][up]Also, Miyamoto wasn't involved with the Super Mario Land games. It seems like a lot of handheld games are B Team Sequels.

Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#3599: Feb 9th 2022 at 11:13:28 AM

[up] and [up]x5

Kirby also originated on a handheld video game platform (the original Game Boy to be more specific), yet managed to break the ghetto and is currently among the top Nintendo franchises that aren't Mario, Zelda, or Pokémon.

Kirby is practically mainstream in Japan. In the West, Kirby is rapidly gaining mainstream status, especially given the positive reception of the upcoming game, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, even among non-Nintendo fans.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Feb 9th 2022 at 2:21:19 PM

Kirby is awesome.
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#3600: Feb 9th 2022 at 11:25:32 AM

[up]I was about to say that Kirby would still count because its handheld games aren't brought up nearly as much as those other franchises you mentioned... but then I realised that the console games aren't, either, except maybe Super Star.

When I typed that post, I was thinking about Ōkamiden. The original Ōkami is a huge case of First Installment Wins; it's one of the most famous Acclaimed Flops in all of gaming and has been re-released many times, but people routinely forget it even had a sequel.

Edited by NitroIndigo on Feb 9th 2022 at 7:27:25 PM


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