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Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM
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hmm. being a bad poet is often used to suggest a specific thing about a character (namely, either that they're a pretentious hack or that they're a dumbass with their heart in the right place). i think a subtrope could have merit.
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It might also be expanded to intentionally bad songs as well, for the same reason. Plus, poetry and music aren't that different.
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How about something like Adaptational Interactions? Two or more characters interact in an adaptation, when they never did in the source material.
Off the top of my head, there's Sheska and Winry in Fullmetal Alchemist 2003, and the real Tom with pretty much everyone in all these Animorphs AU fics I've been reading.
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Does Adaptation Relationship Overhaul cover that?
Edited by Amonimus on Sep 27th 2021 at 9:45:41 PM
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It's certainly a related concept, but Adaptation Relationship Overhaul seems to be about characters who had a relationship in the source in the first place.
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Would Full-conversion Cyborg work as a trope? As in, a cyborg who only has one flesh part (generally brain) remaining, and otherwise looks like a humanoid robot? Brain in a Jar doesn't exclusively cover brains with a body attached, and Man in the Machine can have more than just their brain remaining even if their cybernetic parts are life support.
Absolute destiny... apeachalypse?
Yeah, I'd say that's a special kinda Cyborg, beyond Artificial Limbs or implants.
Edited by Malady on Sep 27th 2021 at 7:50:58 AM
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I've got kind of a half formed idea for a trope that goes something like "Character has X trait that is redundant with their skills, but nevertheless exists and is relevant".
For example:
- A character in a Sailor Earth situation who Fights Like a Normal or has been Brought Down to Normal.
- A Mix-and-Match Critters entity that technically has one of their components as a baseline (consider the way the vampire/werewolf hybrids in Underworld look different depending on if they started as either one).
- A Jack of All Trades who technically has some specialisation (e.g. the main character of Red Faction 2 was technically a demolition specialist, even though they played a lot like a typically balanced FPS character)
Edited by Bisected8 on Sep 28th 2021 at 11:53:18 AM
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Would a "secret undersea kingdom" trope be redundant with Atlantis? I mean, Atlantis is the trope-maker for sure, but I can think of other examples that aren't actually Atlantis- just a city that happens to be underwater and has always existed there. Inhabitants are pretty much always portrayed as distrusting land-dwellers, having a thriving society, and being intentionally isolationist. I've seen it everywhere from Neopets to MLP. Is it a trope in and of itself, or is it already covered by things like Atlantis and Hidden Elf Village?
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I've brought this up before but it's on my mind again. So for a long time, I've considered a YMMV item to help with Ambiguous Disorder misuse, something along the lines of "Disability Lens" or "Audience-Interpreted Disorder" for characters who are perceived to have specific disorders or disabilities (primarily mental but possibly not exclusively) by the audience. It'd be a subtrope of Alternate Character Interpretation, a sister trope to Trans Audience Interpretation. However, I'm worried people will claim it's redundant with Ambiguous Disorder (it's not, because Ambiguous Disorder is for characters meant to have some mental disorder that is not meant to be a specific diagnosis) so I'm wondering if I should wait until the next TRS attempt or just go for the draft.
Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 28th 2021 at 1:30:57 PM
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If I had a penny for every character fan-labeled on autistic spectrum for just being unsociable... Though I haven't been keeping track on any.
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Tons of characters get labeled as trans or gay simply because fans want them to be (and I have no problem with that and have done the same myself), but we still manage to keep Trans Audience Interpretation and Rainbow Lens limited to those that have compelling arguments behind them with multiple specified factors.
Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 28th 2021 at 1:39:25 PM
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I say make the draft.
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TBH, I still think we're missing a more general "LGBT Audience Interpretation" trope to fill the void those tropes are leaving (especially since Rainbow Lens is about subtext and narrative moreso than character interpretation).
Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 28th 2021 at 1:41:02 PM
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When I start the draft, I can steal wicks from relevant Alternate Character Interpretation and Ambiguous Disorder entries and see what happens there. See if it can stay from getting too offensive or repetitive.
Perhaps, but I wonder just how many examples would fit an item like that. Also worth noting that Applicability exists too... though it's a little unclear sometimes.
Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 28th 2021 at 1:43:40 PM
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I mean, I know one example from House of Anubis, where a character has been popularly interpreted as a lesbian just because... she has no canon male love-interest and fans want a gay. I don't know how common this sort of thing is, but this feels a little awkwardly placed in the standard Alternate Character Interpretation.
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What about a trope for when characters intentionally break The Masquerade on a live broadcast? Off the top of my head, this happens in an Animorphs side-book, the Hogwarts Exposed Timeline, and a chapter of All Assorted Animorphs AUs.
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I could have sworn Breaking The Masquerade was its own trope and it was not like Broken Masquerade...
Speaking of, what's with Broken Masquerade's style and formatting?
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- Having only 42 edits since it was made about 13 years ago will do that to ya.
... Broken Masquerade has 777 related and zero on-page examples.
we've got some crosswicking to do.
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I think it should be added to Tropes Needing TRS.
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Extinct Sapient Species, when a sapient species goes or has gone extinct. I've had this idea in my head for a while. There are examples in The Elder Scrolls, Star Wars, Star Trek and World of Warcraft
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One Perry The Platypus Limit, where a certain species is mostly connected to a specific character, such as Perry or Taz the Tasmanian devil. (Source idea here)
Interestingly, I too was just thinking about that.
Another example would be Mortdecai the blue jay
Why not just call it One Perry Limit, ala One-Steve Limit or One Mario Limit
Edited by magnumtropus on Oct 1st 2021 at 8:09:06 PM
Would there be merit to a Stylistic Suck subtrope about "bad" poetry?