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Have an idea for a new trope, but don't know for sure if it's a good idea? Did Trope Finder give you similar concepts, but not exactly what you wanted? Are you just looking for a focus to a broader idea?

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On this thread, you can share your ideas with the masses before making that TLP draft, so if there's any lingering uncertainty about the validity of your idea or you just want some help pinning down a good idea, ask away and help others out, too!

A related sandbox I need to pitch is the Trope Idea Salvage Yard. If you've an idea but can't personally work on it, you can add it to the yard and let someone else create the draft. Or you can browse it yourself if you need more draft ideas, whether or not you feel they should be mentioned here first.

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With that out of the way: Let's discuss some ideas.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 1:49:11 PM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
Nen_desharu Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire from Greater Smash Bros. Universe or Toronto Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Nintendo Fanatic Extraordinaire
#2752: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:24:19 AM

[up][up]There should be a cleanup thread for Only One Name or to put it in TRS.

Edited by Nen_desharu on Sep 9th 2021 at 12:24:56 PM

Kirby is awesome.
Malady (X-Troper)
#2753: Sep 9th 2021 at 9:54:41 AM

Turn No Last Name Given into a disambig or retarget once the new trope launches.

Edited by Malady on Sep 9th 2021 at 9:54:50 AM

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
Unicorndance Logic Girl from Thames, N.Z. Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Logic Girl
#2754: Sep 9th 2021 at 2:15:15 PM

I was thinking of making a draft for "Fear sends a woman into labour", however:

1. Many maternity crises leave it ambiguous as to whether it was the fear or just a coincidence that sent the woman into labour, and

2. Should that include birds laying eggs out of fear? Because that's currently on Bowel-Breaking Bricks despite babies usually being quite far removed from poop.

For every low there is a high.
Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#2755: Sep 11th 2021 at 2:48:19 PM

One that could work:

Fake Interaction

They look like they're interacting in the same shot... but they're not. Sub-Trope of Special Effects Failure.

Nothing to do with Fake Interactivity which is a whole different trope.

Inspiration from this Cover Version of "Owner of A Lonely Heart" by Max Graham - link, which was commented on below the video.

Edited by Merseyuser1 on Sep 11th 2021 at 10:49:09 AM

jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#2757: Sep 11th 2021 at 9:25:12 PM

Here's one I just thought of, hope we don't already have it somewhere, lol.

Heel Face Door Opener- the character who offers a chance to the villains in hopes of redeeming them. Ben from Descendants, for example, or Princess Celestia when she freed Discord. The character who willingly lets villains into the fold under circumstances to try and see if they can be made better.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
#2758: Sep 11th 2021 at 9:49:38 PM

A partial repost: I'm still considering putting Pack In Game (a Trivia page for video games that were sold with the console they were created for, like Wii Sports) through TLP. I decided that it would make a better title than Pack In Title (from my last post), but there's still two other concerns I wanted to get some feedback on:

  • Should I list special console bundles that include games that the regular retail consoles don't? (For instance, in late 2010 there was a special red Wii that came with Wii Sports and New Super Mario Bros. Wii; by that time, the regular console came with both Wii Sports and Wii Sports Resort.) I ask because I fear the page may become bloated if I list every console bundle in existence - but I'm not sure if I'm thinking about this the wrong way, and perhaps this wouldn't be an issue.
  • I know that People Sit on Chairs is specifically about tropes, but I still have doubts that my idea might still be too trivial to warrant a trivia page (as absurd as that may seem).

Pinball cleanup thread
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#2760: Sep 11th 2021 at 10:09:15 PM

Yeah, I mean I guess. It's not exact, as The Redeemer doesn't need to set out with the express purpose of being the redeemer, and the character I'm thinking of isn't always directly responsible for the redemption, but yeah I guess it's covered.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Zeny Since: Apr, 2021
#2761: Sep 11th 2021 at 10:19:26 PM

Do we have a trope for valid pansexuality/bisexuality for male action characters is that they're horny and fuck everything? Example - Deadpool and John Constantine.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
danrobjay Since: Dec, 2020
#2763: Sep 11th 2021 at 11:07:38 PM

Road Hazard Fellatio

I keep encountering a trope which is a car crash (or near-accident) related to oral sex being given to the driver. The example I encountered most recently is American Gods season 1, episode 4, with Laura fellating Robbie while he sings along to the radio and subsequently has a fatal car crash, killing them both. I'm sure others can name more examples. I cannot find the trope in any form except for the closest being Auto Erotica, which emphasizes sex in the back seat and vaguely refers to moral retribution for sex in the car. Any thoughts? coolgrintongue

Edited by danrobjay on Sep 12th 2021 at 4:07:38 AM

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#2764: Sep 11th 2021 at 11:12:58 PM

[up]I think it happens in Army of the Dead too. It might be too specific though... and may prompt concerns about being NSFW.

[up][up][up] On top of [up][up] there's also Anything That Moves and, for the more extreme, Extreme Omnisexual.

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 11th 2021 at 2:14:20 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#2765: Sep 12th 2021 at 3:06:50 AM

Could Good Is Cool or Good Is Cooler Than Evil work as a YMMV trope?

jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
SMILE!
#2766: Sep 12th 2021 at 7:31:04 AM

[up] That sounds like an unnecessary aversion of Evil Is Cool, especially since Evil Is Cool is only notable in itself because audiences are usually expected to find the heroes cooler than the villains.

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#2767: Sep 12th 2021 at 7:33:31 AM

[up][up]I don't know if it would. Evil Is Cool mostly works for subverting the notion that villains are unlikeable. Good Is Cool would probably just devolve into "cool hero" and is that notable?

[nja]

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 12th 2021 at 10:33:40 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#2768: Sep 12th 2021 at 12:09:06 PM

Do we have a trope for valid pansexuality/bisexuality for male action characters is that they're horny and fuck everything? Example - Deadpool and John Constantine.

there's also Anything That Moves and, for the more extreme, Extreme Omnisexual.

None of those is quite right. Depraved Bisexual is about bisexuality underscoring a wicked or psychotic nature.

Their willingness to sleep with everyone they can is just one facet of their Ax-Craziness — i.e. they don't consider certain relationships taboo, because they don't consider anything taboo.

Anything That Moves isn't limited to bisexuals.

They may have species and gender boundaries

And Extreme Omnisexual is, well, extreme.

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#2769: Sep 12th 2021 at 12:10:49 PM

[up] Not sure if specifying that the characters are bisexual and pansexual isn't quite enough to be a distinct trope though. Might be worth a try, IDK.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
RLH4 Cool Loser from Midgard Since: Sep, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Cool Loser
#2770: Sep 13th 2021 at 6:03:04 PM

I was thinking of a trope for Sketch Fiend, a low tech version of Camera Fiend who sketches things all of the time, but Significant Sketchbook is already a thing, and since pretty much every Sketch Fiend sketches in a Significant Sketchbook, it seems like there would be almost 100% overlap and there's no point. Thoughts?

Clown To Clown Handshake Initiating...
Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#2771: Sep 13th 2021 at 6:31:16 PM

I've found Terrible Artist, Starving Artist or Mad Artist, but not something alike "likes to draw in spare time". I'd think it's a pretty common archetype.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#2772: Sep 14th 2021 at 3:01:44 AM

A possible new trope I found from watching Noddy, Toyland Detective on Netflix for research for here:

G Rated Dementia

Laconic: Not dementia but a stand-in for it.

Dementia / Alzheimer's disease is a difficult topic to talk about, a taboo topic at times, and when it has been discussed, it's often in documentaries, or a Very Special Episode.

But in a more fantasy (as in sci-fi or Sword and Sandal-type context, or even a Funny Animal cartoon), dementia will be shown by another name or referred to by euphemisms.

Compare with Scatterbrained Senior which is about old people depicted as Cloudcuckoolander-types.

Where this trope differs is the context; it's not specifically old people-focused and not confined to our world, and the symptoms are recognizable as dementia, but it's never named explicitly.

See also G-Rated Mental Illness, which has some overlap.

Examples:

Edited by Merseyuser1 on Sep 14th 2021 at 11:04:45 AM

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#2773: Sep 14th 2021 at 7:08:44 AM

I feel like Scatterbrained Senior already covers that; I don't see how the "context" really makes a difference here, and I don't see if the whole metaphor thing like in the Noddy example is common enough to split off from that and Does This Remind You of Anything?.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#2774: Sep 15th 2021 at 7:39:27 AM

[up] OK, maybe too specific.

But one that could work:

The Factory Visit / Factory of Fear

Factories, in fiction, are sometimes depicted as über-efficient, highly industrialized places.

But they're also the scene or backdrop for a conflict or the plotline. In stale-beer-flavored Spy Fiction, it's a scene for The Infiltration.

Expect to see No OSHA Compliance and for it to be used for action-packed settings.

Not to be confused with Charlie and the Chocolate Parody, which is a parody of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and often follows The Stations of the Canon, it's an entirely separate trope.

Examples:

Live Action TV

  • The Blacklist would often have factories as a backdrop due to the genre of the show, but there were some episodes that specifically focused on them:
    • "Lipet's Seafood Company", with the namesake company of the episode being a Front Company and actually Demoted to Extra in its own episode, as it focuses on a terrorism plotline.

Western Animation

Edited by Merseyuser1 on Sep 15th 2021 at 3:42:04 PM

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#2775: Sep 15th 2021 at 3:10:56 PM

Currently, Good Counterpart redirects to Evil Counterpart. Think it's worth splitting off? "Good version of established villain" tends to have a different vibe than "evil version of established hero".

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.

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