Haiku-Wiki Cleanup

I’m fine with Haiku.Troll Post.

Haiku.Troll Post was brought up before and most of us are fine with it. It's funny. Let it just be funny. No need to take shit so seriously, Guma.

That troll post 'haiku' certainly trolls my own concerns in this thread. Less than 17-syllables, said Wyldchyld? Here's one with zero.

I love it. Let it stay.

The vast majority of 5-7-5 poems on this wiki will also, by definition, not be haiku. In fact, I'm willing to bet almost all of them won't be.

Here's the thing. Do you want the 'haiku' on this wiki to be real haiku that adhere to the standards set by professional poets, haiku societies and competitions around the world? If you do, then we need to burn the Haiku namespace to the ground and start from scratch. And perhaps obtain some proper expertise in real haiku writing before we even contemplate allowing such a namespace to exist.

Or, we can be what we are: a wiki populated by people who mostly do not, and never will, have professional expertise of writing real haiku, who just want a different way of representing works using a 'haiku' style of poetry to engage in a bit of fun without degenerating into complaining and point-scoring — in which spirit, the troll post 'haiku' finds a perfect home.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 9th 2020 at 6:27:50 PM

No offence, but...wait. I'm confused. Are you saying the haikus on this website aren't true haikus?

The very short answer is: yes, by definition, there is a difference between a 5-7-5 poem and a haiku.

However, my point is that this 'by definition' argument isn't something we should worry about. This wiki is in line with how Anglophone schools teach haiku; that's okay, and it's also okay to have some fun with that (for example, the troll post haiku).

Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 9th 2020 at 3:13:37 PM

>Normal users cannot restore cut pages.

Pretty sure the autolock system was removed years ago, so the above statement is inaccurate.

Normal users can recreate cut pages, but they can't access the deleted content of cut pages without using outside archives.

Edited by Serac on Aug 10th 2020 at 9:35:58 AM

Oh, that's what you meant by restore. OK then.

Was wondering if this could be a generic poems namespace so people could post other formats, such as a cinquain.

The mods said no, unfortunately. [1]

The first and last entries on Haiku.American Kirby Is Hardcore are one syllable too man on the second lines. They can easily be fixed, but these Tropers did sign their entries.

EDIT: Many, not man.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Aug 31st 2020 at 12:39:16 PM

The first haiku on Haiku.Gainaxing is fine but the other two have This Troper and are also kinda skeevy. Ok to remove?

Yes.

So Haiku.Fetish Fuel exists... Should I cut it?

I asked about that on ATT but work has been a bit mad recently and I didn't catch up with it. I made the error of sending it to cut list because I thought I had the okay to do that, but it turns out my page hasn't been loading properly and I didn't even notice. I've left a message on the discussion page to ask that it not be cut, since I don't know how to recall a cut.

Regarding a reason why I think the Haiku page for Fetish Fuel should be removed is because we're not supposed to list examples. The first three are pretty generic troping in haiku format. They also make for very skeevy reading. I really think they should go.

That said, I think an argument can probably be made that the fourth example reads like a Laconic, and therefore is functioning as a second Laconic for the page.

The problem I want to flag with it is that it falls foul of dialect: depending on English dialect, it has 18 syllables instead of 17. The problematic word is 'rule', which can be two syllables in many English dialects (my own native dialect pronouces it 'roo-ahl', for instance). Do we accommodate these words? I assume so, but I just wanted to flag it to be certain.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Oct 15th 2020 at 4:58:36 PM

I've never heard of anyone pronouncing "rule" with two syllables before, which leads immediately to my feeling that cutting Haiku examples because they don't work in some dialects is a bad, bad idea.

That's pretty much my observation. I just thought it would be good to clarify it.

On Banjo-Kazooie, we have these entries:

• Acclaimed platformers
  Dead now because of Microsoft
  Yooka-Laylee GO!

• Banjo-Kazooie
  Beloved Franchise of Rare
  CURSE YOU, MICROSOFT!

The first one isn't even a proper haiku (the second line has 8 syllables instead of 7), and the second one is just pure complaining. Permission to cut?

You can cut.

Here's Haiku.Final Fantasy VII

Cloud, such a woobie.
The rest of the cast as well,
Damn, that's fucking harsh.

—Scan Visor

His looks inane
Mako made him insane
The savior has come

—Tai Cat

This article
Locked up tight for years and years
Reasons forgotten

—CL

Blond guy with Big Sword
Stuck between two cute girls
Flower girl dies

—gene0129

Eighteen years we wait
For the HD Remake of
The One-Winged Angel.

—Morbuss

Lo and behold world
Reason to buy PS4
Right in front of you

—Brohaha

Really good graphics
For the 90’s anyway
Oh and a big twist

—Risdio51

Edited by ccorb on Nov 20th 2020 at 6:29:56 AM

Okay:

1. Complaining
2. Too many syllables on the third line (6)
3. Complaining about the main page's Locked Page status; not enough syllables on the first line (4)
4. Not enough syllables on the second line (6) or the third line (4)
5. Probably okay
6. Gushing
7. Gushing, but probably okay

2 has a 4-6-5 scheme (or 4-6-6, depending on how you pronounce “savior”).

Cleaned that page.

Haiku.The Problem Solverz has some fighting over the show's reception.

New show on T.V.
I watched it one day and asked,
What the Hell was that?

DeepC

This is a bad show
The colors burn my eyes, man
What were they thinking?

Calamity Jane

No need to get high
Flash has never been trippier
Mind has been screwed

Jayday12345678910

Newgrounds had a baby;
A deformed baby that should die
What a piece of Alfe

Super Flash 101

Well I have to say,
this show is getting better
It's still damn trippy!

DeepC

On CN's website
I saw an ad for this show
Hatred at first sight

Snowsky

What were the execs
Thinking?! Seriously, watch
Finn and Jake instead!

Snowsky

This show is awesome
It's really quite creative
Haters gonna hate

Arpanet

People says it's cool
I laugh at their opinions
I show them talent.

UnorigunNalname

I don't understand
Why the hell do they complain ?
This show is awsome

Dragongirl0905

A kphoria base for style
My eyes, they are bleeding now
What the fuck is this?

Camwood

Worst cartoon ever
Should have gone to Adult Swim
Why does it have fans?
—> Magnus Force

Problem Solverz blows
This show I think may just be
The spawn of Satan
—> sailoralkaline

Edited by PlasmaPower on Apr 12th 2021 at 3:09:36 PM

Since it's literally just bickering over quality, I say we just send it to the cremation room.