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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#151: Sep 9th 2020 at 12:15:18 AM

Yes, it's primarily about bringing wicks into compliance with Flame Bait rules.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#152: Sep 9th 2020 at 9:29:40 AM

Okay, been doing some cleanup. We're not done yet. I deleted everything I could, but here's everything I didn't delete:

    Necessary wick 

    Acceptable due to being Just for Fun 

    Pages that shouldn't be edited (I think) 

    In-universe examples 

    Unsure 

    Still needs fixing 

Edited by FernandoLemon on Sep 10th 2020 at 6:23:49 AM

I'd like to apologize for all this.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#153: Sep 9th 2020 at 9:32:54 AM

Hmm. Are these In-Universe examples good enough that we could redefine this trope as In-Universe Examples Only?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#154: Sep 9th 2020 at 9:42:24 AM

[up] I don't think there are enough examples for that, are there?

Do me a favor, would you mind removing the pothole to it in Bile Fascination, since that page is locked?

I'd like to apologize for all this.
jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#155: Sep 9th 2020 at 10:02:56 AM

I believe Flame Bait wicks on other trope pages are fine as long as they aren’t used to refer to a specific work or genre, and the I Was Young and Needed the Money, Tall Tale and Playing With wicks are In-Universe examples.

We still need to figure out if Flame Bait wicks are allowed on WMG pages as well.

Edited by jandn2014 on Sep 9th 2020 at 1:04:38 PM

back lol
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#157: Sep 9th 2020 at 10:27:29 AM

Yeah, 6 examples are a bit little. I figure someone could run an example-gathering TLP and - if they manage to scrap enough together - make a new TRS proposing that this trope be redefined as In-Universe Examples Only. I did something similar years ago at Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch.

Also, got the Bile Fascination wick.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
ccorb from A very hot place Since: May, 2020 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
#159: Sep 10th 2020 at 2:14:52 PM

[up] I think we can make a trope about characters snarking about a Show Within a Show or some Tall Tales.

Edited by ccorb on Sep 10th 2020 at 5:15:06 AM

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#160: Sep 10th 2020 at 2:20:31 PM

[up] Sure, we have 11 examples for that. But, like I said, wouldn't that be too similar to MST?

Edited by FernandoLemon on Sep 10th 2020 at 6:25:42 AM

I'd like to apologize for all this.
GastonRabbit Cake's just a shot away. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#161: Sep 10th 2020 at 11:59:50 PM

Since MST is an objective trope about works that snark at other works (it's not IUEO, but it's already implicitly for in-universe examples), it sounds sufficient for these kinds of examples. Plus, MST has nearly 600 wicks vs. the 11 in-universe wicks for Snark Bait, so I think we can just use MST instead of making Snark Bait IUEO.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#162: Oct 11th 2020 at 3:12:45 AM

OK, then we move the In-Universe examples to MST. ~FernandoLemon, are there any other wicks to clean up?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#163: Oct 11th 2020 at 8:52:28 AM

[up] We still have to fix these ones from my previous post. Everything else can stay. No new wicks have appeared since the last time:

    In-universe examples (need swapping to MST, I guess) 

    Unsure (arguable whether we keep them or not) 

    Still needs fixing (potholes that need rewriting) 

Edited by FernandoLemon on Oct 11th 2020 at 2:03:03 PM

I'd like to apologize for all this.
HeavyMetalHermitCrab Since: Sep, 2018
#164: Oct 11th 2020 at 1:09:04 PM

I took care of the MST and Pothole examples.

As far as the "Unsure" examples, I removed the one on Parody Sue as it was in effect calling something "snark bait". The others I don't see the harm in keeping, as they're mostly being used in non-derogatory ways.

FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#165: Oct 11th 2020 at 1:43:38 PM

[up] I mean, Unpleasable Fanbase, DarthWiki.Fallen Creator, and DarthWiki.So Bad Its Horrible are all Flame Bait anyway, so I see no harm in keeping those three.

Thanks for helping me with the remainder of the cleanup, we can now file this one as done.

I'd like to apologize for all this.
Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#166: Oct 11th 2020 at 3:49:51 PM

Okay, then, closing.

We seem to be on a roll today clearing the backlog.

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What should be done with Snark Bait? Option 1 isn't mutually exclusive with options 2 and 3, but options 2 and 3 are mutually exclusive with each other.

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