Did the plot threads from Heretics and Chapterhouse get resolved? If they were I'd kind like to know what those two books were building towards.
Also, our page on Dune says "in the year 10,191 AG, or "After Guild" (21,267 AD by our calendar)", so it's set even further in the future than it appears at first glance.
x6 Paul and Chani will eventually get back together especially since she'll be the mother to Leto II and Ganima. Paul and Irulan's relationship remained professional in the books but Irulan does come to love Paul enough that when Chani died in childbirth and Paul exiled himself to the desert after their birth, she takes care of the twins like they were her own children while adult Alia rules the empire while secretly being driven mad by the ghost of her grandfather.
To add onto what K Rider said, Irulan loves Paul and this causes a rift between her and Chani. Irulan poisons Chani with a contraceptive and when Chani finds out, they have a friendly chrysknife to throat chat.
Edited by Wabbawabbajack on Mar 8th 2024 at 5:03:47 AM
Hollywood Reporter put in an argument that the challange of Dune Messiah being adapted is that the book is less actiony and more a think piece.
I imagine Villeneuve is gonna put in some more artistic license.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/dune-3-messiah-problem-book-1235845611/
Having not read the books this may be incorrect, but considering that Dune Messiah is less than a third of the length of Dune, they probably are planning to add quite a bit of content to make its runtime match the other two movies. Dune and Dune Part 2 were each adapting half of the 896 page book, while Dune Messiah is only 256 pages.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Mar 8th 2024 at 4:50:17 AM
It's not like either movie is especially action packed, the second one may have less action than the first due to focusing more on Paul being comfortable in the desert instead of at its' mercy. A number of people commented that the Big Badass Battle Sequence basically shows just enough so we understand what happens and then cuts to Paul's personal resolution.
Comics are just words and pictures. You can do anything with words and pictures.The Act 1 sequence showing Paul and Chani leading Fremen troops against Harkonnen spice harvesters is not in the book directly. Rather, the Fremen raids are referenced by multiple characters. Neither are the Harkonnen reprisal attacks directly recounted. The book skips over about four years with little fanfare.
Edited by Fighteer on Mar 8th 2024 at 8:31:18 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"I'm thinking more that in the first movie the slaughter of House Atreides was a prolonged like 45 minute sequence that includes bombings of the ships, close quarters combat, armies fighting on the airstrip and escaping through the tunnels or in the ornithopters. The second movie instead paints most of the action in isolated 2 minute scenes or montages of other attacks, like the opening scene making it 80 percent tension and only 20 percent actual fighting.
Comics are just words and pictures. You can do anything with words and pictures.I mean, I'd argue that the actual battle sequences in Dune part 2 are mostly boring, because almost all of them are just us watching the Fremen win easily. Like, look at the last "battle". It's literally just the Fremen showing up and effortlessly cleaning house. If all of your battles are going to be that one sided then most of the time I'd rather it be glossed over honestly. It's not until Feyd vs Paul that I actually perked up a bit.
I'm not saying it SHOULD have been a back and forth struggle or anything, but like, focus on the interesting stuff instead.
Edited by GNinja on Mar 9th 2024 at 1:05:15 PM
Kaze ni Nare!
Ironically, this part is true to the first book.
The Freemen do win easily in every battle they enter; even the famed Sardaukar are no match for them, and provoke only a "this ones are slightly less squishy than normal soldiers" reaction from the Freemen.
Edited by jawal on Mar 9th 2024 at 2:20:12 PM
Every Hero has his own way of eating yogurt
Which is why I don't think the battles should be changed as such, because it's clearly like a thematic point. I just think it makes them very uninteresting to watch, so the focus shouldn't be on them.
So the prospect of a more think-piecey Dune Messiah movie sounds very appealing to me.
Edited by GNinja on Mar 9th 2024 at 1:28:29 PM
Kaze ni Nare!

Isn't there a whole threat in the Brian Herbert books that there's another machine empire out in the universe somewhere that was driving the Honored Matres into attacking the rest of humanity?