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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#76: Apr 3rd 2020 at 5:43:56 AM

[up] Should i call him Motomu?

Oh common Japanese names.

But really if this ends with Cloud going to Spain i'm swearing off Final Fantasy forever.

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#77: Apr 3rd 2020 at 5:49:23 AM

Fair, but when someone say "Toriyama", I think most people would just remember the guy who made Dragon Ball.

And he does work with SE, making the desings of Dragon Quest and Chrono Trigger.

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#78: Apr 3rd 2020 at 5:51:12 AM

Yep, I can’t unsee Vegeta Magus.

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#79: Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:01:24 AM

Magus looks more like Piccolo with hair to me.

Human Frog in the PS 1 ending Animation though looks like a Green Haired Vegeta.

As the final trailer reveals, aside from the mindfuck ending of this part, Everything else about the game is overall similar. Even a Hell House boss.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#80: Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:03:46 AM

I guess the mind fuck ending is supposed to be the big MGS 2 surprise.

Where you spend hours thinking you will play FF VII but then it becomes a bizarre time travel story.

I wonder if they will go all MGS 2 on us and deconstruct remakes?

Other way around for me, Frog looks like Piccolo. Granted i have played Chrono Trigger long before joining the DBZ fandom.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:04:49 AM

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#81: Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:04:44 AM

Maybe, I'll just wait till the game comes out before getting the full picture.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#82: Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:05:53 AM

[up] I mean, this game going off the rails made me want to play it to see where it goes. No longer do i have the apprehension of it being a pretty VII with KH gameplay.

C'mon Square, let's go insane.

I mean, we can ignore the retcons like Shinra making the bomb stronger or people surviving the plate since this is an alternate timeline or something.

FF has canonically dealt with different universes.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:06:54 AM

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#83: Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:06:36 AM

The Ending of the final part will be cloud waking up in Radiant Garden in KH. XD!

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#84: Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:06:42 AM

Lucca and Marle are basically different version of Bulma.

And Ayla is the closest Toriyama got to remembering who Launch is.

Edited by HailMuffins on Apr 3rd 2020 at 10:07:13 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#85: Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:07:50 AM

[up][up] Can you imagine seeing the Disney cast in the FF VII artstyle?

I wanna see Sora realistically. Maybe Donald and Goofy too if they aren't horrifying.

Who does Queen Zeal look like? [up]

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:11:17 AM

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#87: Apr 3rd 2020 at 6:11:45 AM

I swear she looks familiar.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#88: Apr 3rd 2020 at 7:40:33 AM

@Red Hunter 543

Folks elsewhere are calling it the Rebuild of Final Fantasy Vii.

Which feels like the more fitting comparison right now rather than MGS 2. Trolling for the sake of trolling.

Edited by Nikkolas on Apr 3rd 2020 at 7:44:04 AM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#89: Apr 3rd 2020 at 7:56:36 AM

Comparing it to Rebuild feels appropriate. I'm wondering if it'll go further off the rails later. I kind of hope it does.

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#90: Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:30:13 AM

Give me the gist of Rebuild please, because i haven't watched the series like at all.

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#91: Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:37:23 AM

Reboot that turned out to be a sequel series.

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#92: Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:40:53 AM

[up] No, more like it was a retelling that at first seemed like it was going to be by the numbers, only to go off the rails by the second movie leading to the next two movies being their own stories.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#93: Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:42:40 AM

That might also be a sequel. There's a bloodstain on the moon that was left there at the end of the original series.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Apr 3rd 2020 at 11:43:17 AM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#94: Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:43:48 AM

Think remakes that are actually sequels in disguise will become a trope soon?

SMT Strange Journey did it too.

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#96: Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:52:42 AM

Nioh 2 despite being a prequel for most of the game turns into a full on sequel in its final levels, so yeah, its a trend.

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#97: Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:56:23 AM

Huh, compelling cases, but in this case, it's a remake that turns out to be a sequel. Those are prequels that turn out to be sequels.

It would be if Omega Ruby was revealed to be a weird time loop.

But now i'm worried if this is time travel, they will actively muck up the legacy of the OG. I just assumed they were gazing at different realities or something.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 3rd 2020 at 8:58:27 AM

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#98: Apr 3rd 2020 at 10:22:42 AM

I think the issue with this is that concepts like time travel, alternate timelines, fate & destiny aren't really part of the FFVII lore, so it feels really forced. If this was happening in FFVIII, I would actually be totally on board.

And reviving Zack and the plate drop victims feels like a major mistake made for fanservice, and ruins some of FF 7 stronger moments like the entire Cloud twist and the Lifestream sequence. Now Zack will just join the party and Cloud will just be ok I guess. Tragedy was a big deal in FF 7, the way they're undoing it is really disappointing.

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#99: Apr 3rd 2020 at 10:48:24 AM

There's a character in VII named Marle. I hope she turns out to be the Chrono Trigger princess.

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#100: Apr 3rd 2020 at 10:56:09 AM

I mean, I don't think we can say the game jumped the shark until we see how events play out after that.

The ending as it's been described to me doesn't seem any different from any other piece of serial fiction to be honest, it's setting up question that are to be answered in later instalments.


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