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Deadlock Clock: Aug 15th 2020 at 11:59:00 PM
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#26: Jul 11th 2020 at 2:42:20 PM

Since the wick check showed that CD is used to refer to other, more specific changes in characters that are often controversial, and it's already an index for those tropes, maybe CD can be relegated to a no-examples index?

Edited by mightymewtron on Jul 11th 2020 at 5:42:47 AM

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#27: Jul 11th 2020 at 2:47:33 PM

[up] I don't think that's necessary. Honestly, I'm with Jay: I genuinely don't see the problem here.

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#28: Jul 11th 2020 at 3:47:09 PM

Basically, if it's not broke...don't fix it.

We can definitely go and make sure the wicks are pointing to the correct tropes, but there's genuinely no issue with the on-page examples.

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Ferot_Dreadnaught Since: Mar, 2015
#29: Jul 11th 2020 at 7:14:37 PM

[up]So it lacks the problems or objective misuse that prevents other Flame Bait form having on page examples. That answers the question I started this thread over. I'd be find ending it saying there's not enough issue to change anything.

So just deal with suspect Character Derailment examples by taking to cleanups on a case by case basis, right?

One last question. How are fan works derailing canon characterization different than Adaptation Personality Change?

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on Jul 11th 2020 at 7:17:06 AM

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#30: Jul 12th 2020 at 5:21:54 AM

I'm a little late in saying this (I blame being sick), but Internet Backdraft has an index on it, which might be why Snark Bait was mistaken for an index.

As for Snark Bait allowing on-page examples, that was proposed, but the consensus was in favor of making it a definition-only page instead.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 12th 2020 at 7:23:57 AM

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#31: Jul 12th 2020 at 5:20:25 PM

I'll be honest, I put Snark Bait on the list without checking because I just assumed it still had examples. That's really all that happened there.

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#32: Aug 12th 2020 at 6:14:15 AM

Resetting clock.

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#33: Aug 12th 2020 at 6:42:41 PM

Also another Flame Bait page that allows on-page examples is Narm.Fan Works. I also support removing the CharacterDerailment.Fanfic subpage, as there's already Draco in Leather Pants and Ron the Death Eater, several examples violate Examples Are Not General, and it's out-of-canon, anyway. At least remove the examples that are already Flanderization.

Edited by ccorb on Aug 12th 2020 at 9:53:05 AM

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#34: Aug 12th 2020 at 10:31:45 PM

So FWIW the page is on Flame Bait but isn't indexed as such for some reason.

I know this thread is leaning towards "do nothing" but I thought it should be mentioned.

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#35: Aug 12th 2020 at 10:33:53 PM

[up] What do you mean it's "not indexed as Flame Bait"? It definitely is.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#36: Aug 13th 2020 at 2:01:12 AM

Edit: Never mind this post. Misread the post above WarJay's most recent post.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Aug 13th 2020 at 6:35:05 AM

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#37: Sep 13th 2020 at 2:28:28 AM

Locking this as stale.

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