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Etack Since: Jun, 2020
#1251: Aug 6th 2024 at 6:29:12 AM

[up][up]My theory is that Soul is waiting for Fuuko to use Remember. Then he'll use Kururu to hijack the entire Union.

Edited by Etack on Aug 6th 2024 at 6:29:43 AM

Jcppcntn98 (Pilot) Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#1252: Aug 6th 2024 at 11:06:34 AM

[up] Or he could make her set Remeber on the "seal memories" function instead of the restoring one when they bring it out, thus locking them out of using it as first intended.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
Cross (Don’t ask)
#1254: Aug 18th 2024 at 8:21:14 AM

Also Unruin is back. Kick his ass thoroughly Fuuko and Andy!

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#1255: Aug 18th 2024 at 8:38:24 AM

That was the most Undead Unluck thing in Undead Unluck.

Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#1256: Aug 18th 2024 at 10:17:35 AM

The Ultimate Weapon was in front of us all along.

Creed of the Happy Pessimist:Always expect the worst. Then, when it happens, it was only what you expected. All else is a happy surprise.
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#1257: Aug 18th 2024 at 10:19:06 AM

Shout out to censor kun being its own panel in the second to last page.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#1258: Aug 18th 2024 at 10:28:05 AM

Hot damn what a sick chapter.

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#1259: Aug 18th 2024 at 10:43:17 AM

I wonder if this means Ruin won't be joining the Union this Loop... making me wonder why he was ever shown in the map Fuuko had to begin with.

Speaking of, I know there are differences between each loop, but what happened to Unruin? Part of his upper torso looks burned, and half of his hair seems bleached white. It's not like it was a wound he couldn't heal from, since he regrows his head with the exact same markings. Is he trying to cosplay as Harvey Dent?

Oh, and Fuuko lost an eye now too. At this rate, forget the dental, Fuuko is gonna need a shit load of prosthetics before this ends. Hope she has good medical, otherwise she'll need to track down another Negator: Uninsurance.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Aug 18th 2024 at 1:45:31 PM

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1260: Aug 18th 2024 at 8:14:28 PM

[up] Fuuko does say the Union will be complete with Andy, so yeah, the Two-Face cosplayer probably is not joining them.

Shadow-Whisperer Comedy guy from Tacoland Since: Jun, 2022
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#1261: Aug 18th 2024 at 8:34:40 PM

[up]x2 Maybe the injuries Unruin has were caused by Soul or another master rule while they "recruited" him, since in this loop he resisted more than in the previous one, so he had to be hurt more before he folded. That, or maybe a previous negator caused thos injuries, though I'm not sure who would be able to do it. Possibly a previous Unfair?

[up] Most likely, but thinking of different scenarios, since Fuuko doesn't know his story yet, she could change her mind after leaning more about Unruin, if my above idea that he resisted at one point the master rules is true. That, or maybe the current Unruin dies after this battle, and then the Union has a race against Soul to find the next person who will inherit the power, and have them join.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#1262: Aug 19th 2024 at 12:16:09 PM

Unreal that we're gonna be the 3rd and soon after 2nd oldest series on Jump. [lol]

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#1263: Aug 19th 2024 at 12:24:12 PM

Wait is Yozakura Family also ending soon?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#1264: Aug 19th 2024 at 12:34:26 PM

Jujutsu Kaisen is, by end of September

Jcppcntn98 (Pilot) Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
#1265: Aug 19th 2024 at 12:40:46 PM

And Yozakura is also in the middle of their final arc as well. So yeah, depending on how things go, there could be a point in the future where Undead Unluck is the second oldest manga in the magazine.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#1266: Aug 19th 2024 at 12:43:33 PM

Jujutsu's end and Hunter X Hunter's return are back-to-back, so it will still take some 10-20 weeks before Yozakura is promoted to 2nd oldest manga in the magazine and Undead Unluck to 3rd.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#1267: Aug 19th 2024 at 12:47:42 PM

I heard Yozakura has like 8 chaps left, hence the soon 2nd bit.

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#1268: Aug 25th 2024 at 8:19:47 AM

    Thoughts 
It didn't dawn on me at the time, but shit Chikara is blind now. His eyes were flat out crushed by Ruin, and with it Unmove is unavailable now outside of Billy using Unfair. Unless Chikara asking Billy to teach him "how to see with his ears" allows him to evolve Unmove to encapsulate sound rather than just sight, Chikara is now benched.

Speaking of injuries, yeah, it's looking like all the injuries in this fight are gonna be permanent, so Fuuko is down an eye. Maybe Nico can make her an artificial eye, but she's gonna be having depth perception issues going forward.

Had a feeling this was a Xanatos Gambit on Soul's part. Lull the Union into a false sense of security by letting them find and recruit Tatiana, then have Ruin catch them off guard by attacking Fuuko. Ruin succeeds in killing Fuuko, then the Union is crippled. Ruin fails at killing Fuuko due to Andy coming in, the eight remaining Master Rules are freed and can cause a wholesale slaughter. Either way, Ragnarok becomes more an inevitability.

It fits that the one Negator who loves God is a Misanthrope Supreme, meaning he'd have no issue with the Rules being used to punish humanity. Considering how he's been called a "Vampire" before, if he gets a Freudian Excuse I guess it will be he was persecuted for being a monster and viciously tortured to the point of death, hoping he could finally die since his body was "ruined"... only for him to gain "Unruin" and heal, letting him be tortured more until he was Madden Into Misanthropy. Meaning the win-con for dealing with him is to either:
  • A.) Find a way to burnout Unruin/kill him faster than he can regenerate. It was said after all that "Unruin" is weaker than "Undead", so it could have a limit to how much it can heal before its burnt out.
  • B.) Convince him he isn't "ruined" and that the people who tortured him aren't all humanity has to offer while pointing out God gave him Unruin specifically to prolong his torture and drive him mad.
  • C.) The wild card option: Fuuko is forced to use Remember on Ruin to seal away his memories just like Juiz did to Victor, preventing her from restoring the memories of the Union in exchange for stopping Ruin and potentially making him an ally.
Also, good lord, the Union is now gonna properly meet Andy. They are not prepared for his level of insanity since they're still adjusting to Fuuko's level, nor are they prepared for the amount of times Andy is left naked.

Also also, I just noticed Andy is wearing Clothy! Does that mean Clothy survived the Loop too, or did Andy find Clothy in this Loop before going to the Sun to trap the Master Rules?

Edited by RebelFalcon on Aug 25th 2024 at 11:35:00 AM

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1269: Aug 25th 2024 at 9:49:11 AM

I think you’re in the money regarding Unruin. Yeah whether Unruin lives or dies, the Master Rules are free to wreak havoc. Great plan.

What a goddamn awesome chapter. Fuuko hits us with the five point landing followed by that kickass double spread with her and Andy reunited. And Clothy’s there too! I assume Clothy just found his way over there when Andy descended.

Sad for Chikara, losing his eyesight means he can’t be a photographer anymore… but hey, golden ending is the goal, there might be a way to do something about that.

Edited by fillerdude on Aug 25th 2024 at 9:50:13 AM

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#1270: Aug 25th 2024 at 9:56:58 AM

The new version of Unmove probably can still be used through the camera even if Chikara can't the see the picture.

Etack Since: Jun, 2020
#1271: Aug 25th 2024 at 3:10:37 PM

Also of note: THEY'RE AT THE BRIDGE FROM THE BEGINING!!!!!

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#1272: Aug 25th 2024 at 6:19:45 PM

I'm currently making my way through the manga. I've mostly been really enjoying it. I'm up to Chapter 148.

I admit, the post Loop arc so far has been a little rough for me in places. There are some parts i've adored, like the focus on characters who didn't get enough screentime in the first loop and the creativity of some of Fukko's solutions like using astral projection to finally let Unsleep sleep, and I know I'm in the "post time skip easy mode" arc that's designed to show off how much the main character has grown", but it's kinda dragging a bit for me. Things are going too easily. I'm mostly waiting for God to throw some kind of wrench into proceedings again.

Edited by GNinja on Aug 25th 2024 at 1:21:36 PM

Kaze ni Nare!
Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#1273: Aug 26th 2024 at 12:07:58 AM

Yeah, I've had that problem with that arc too. But things do pick up occasionally with a real challenge, and I think they just picked up permanently in the latest chapters (which were fantastic, by the way). So I'm hyped for whatever's coming next.

GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#1274: Aug 26th 2024 at 7:41:23 AM

I admit, i don't know if more information has been revealed about Unruin later from where I am, but I did hear one cool theory for why Unruin is weaker than Undead.

The idea they had is not that Unruin cant regenerate as much as Undead can. It's that Unruin could theorhetically die if he did so in a way that he didn't perceive as "ruining" him. So, if being wiped out by God during Ragnarok doesn't count as being Ruined in his opinion, then it can kill him.

Edited by GNinja on Aug 26th 2024 at 2:42:44 PM

Kaze ni Nare!
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#1275: Aug 31st 2024 at 6:35:34 PM

I do wonder if they've made Andy TOOOO busted at this point.

Where I am he can basically solo all of the Master Rules by himself, and he doesn't seem to be having a particularly hard time doing it.

Then again, if there's one problem I have with UXU, it's that I think UM As come off as far less powerful (or at least competent) than Negators

Edited by GNinja on Aug 31st 2024 at 1:35:49 PM

Kaze ni Nare!

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