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fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1226: Jul 14th 2024 at 9:27:34 PM

Chapter 214: Fuuko managed to meet up with Tatiana again, ready to fulfill their promise. D’awww.

This almost seems too easy though.

RebelFalcon ULTRANumb from ... (Private)
#1227: Jul 15th 2024 at 3:51:17 PM

[up]It's not over yet. Tatiana's Untouchable nearly triggered here just from wanting to be left alone for once. Fuuko may have stopped it for now, but it's effectively on a hair trigger right now, and considering how it triggered in the 100th Loop from wanting to touch her parents who genuinely loved her, it's a literal coin toss what will trigger it outside of the common trait of intense emotion and desire. And Tatiana is still a little kid right now, so intense emotions are a lot more common for someone of her age. It's gonna be walking on eggshells for everyone until Nico and Ichico can finish making her pod and get it to her on time.

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#1228: Jul 15th 2024 at 4:18:06 PM

Tatiana is not a little kid. Betty is a little kid.

I've never been entirely clear on how old Tatiana was in loop 100, but in 101 her appearance suggests to me she's closer to Gina and Chikara, maybe a little younger.

RebelFalcon ULTRANumb from ... (Private)
#1229: Jul 15th 2024 at 4:50:03 PM

I always pegged Tatiana as being around 10-12. I tend to see anything as 12 and younger as being "little". Teenagers are what I consider just kids, but that owes more to my thoughts on emotional maturity which I will not go into here.

I wouldn't put her near Chikara's age, which is what made the insinuation Chikara had a thing for her in the 100th Loop kinda weird to me, since it looked like Chikara was 3-5 years older than her. She's not as young as Betty or Bunny, but I would agree she's younger than Gina and Chikara.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Jul 15th 2024 at 7:52:27 AM

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
Cross (Don’t ask)
#1230: Jul 15th 2024 at 6:12:00 PM

[up] What pity chocolate does to a guy.[lol]

So was anyone else thinking Fuuko might have bought the rights to Pan-Panda in this loop?

Shadow-Whisperer Comedy guy from Tacoland Since: Jun, 2022
Comedy guy
#1231: Jul 15th 2024 at 6:19:18 PM

[up] I'm not sure what would be funnier, her investing on "Pan Panda Inc." years ago in preparation for her meeting with Tatiana; or her just arriving on random day to the front desk to offer a 100 million for them to make her into a marketable plushie [lol].

Regarding Tatiana's age, I was discussing that topic yesterday, and while comparing her in the previous loop and the current one, I get the feeling she was older back then. It could also be that the artstyle has changed so now she is cuter, and therefore she is just looks younger, but I'm not sure.

Official sources aren't exactly helpful, since in her character page in the bonus pages in a volume, Tatiana's age is listed as "Not telling. You'll just treat me as a kid anyway".

Edited by Shadow-Whisperer on Jul 15th 2024 at 6:20:05 AM

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1232: Jul 15th 2024 at 8:44:14 PM

I think Tatiana looks older here.

And yes I believe Fuuko invested in Pan Panda hahaha.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#1233: Jul 16th 2024 at 9:10:43 PM

Yeah Tatiana seems like she's older in this loop.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#1234: Jul 17th 2024 at 7:13:56 AM

Wasn't that the case for a few of the Negators, remember something like that coming up when they were going after Sean.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#1235: Jul 17th 2024 at 7:25:38 AM

I wouldn't put her near Chikara's age, which is what made the insinuation Chikara had a thing for her in the 100th Loop kinda weird to me, since it looked like Chikara was 3-5 years older than her.

The loop was used to make the Top/Haruka age gap not terrible, so I assume something similar happened here.

Shadow-Whisperer Comedy guy from Tacoland Since: Jun, 2022
Comedy guy
#1236: Jul 17th 2024 at 7:35:57 AM

[up]x4 & [up]x3 Ok, you are probably right; since everywhere else I have mentioned my point of view, no one seems to agree with me. I don't know, Tatiana face just looks younger to me.

[up] Well, considering Chikara now is older, since he could graduate high-school, meaning he is now 18 which unless they make Tatiana 16 (maybe 15 is still ok?), I don't think it's a good idea to have shipping between those two.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#1237: Jul 17th 2024 at 9:06:26 AM

[up][up][up] The point was noted that many of the Union and Under Negators were being born sooner in this loop than they had in the previous; in particular, the ones who were active later like Chikara and Sean.

The Union/Fuuko took this as something like the Negators subconsciously telling them "we're here, come get us"

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#1238: Jul 17th 2024 at 11:51:35 AM

Though it's a bit weird that their tragedies are happening at different times.

Mami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#1239: Jul 21st 2024 at 6:11:59 AM

I think it was previously established that every loop isn't 1:1 even if some things are consistent.

I absolutely cannot help but adore handsome 2D boys
fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1240: Jul 21st 2024 at 6:18:15 PM

Chapter 215: The boss of the Union, scolded by a little girl over a Pan Panda mascot. Hilarious.

Speaking of shipping fuel for Chikara and Tatiama, it's pretty cool how Chikara's aspirations for photography align with Tatiana's work as a model.

Shadow-Whisperer Comedy guy from Tacoland Since: Jun, 2022
Comedy guy
#1241: Jul 21st 2024 at 6:33:56 PM

[up] Well you see, you never break the kayfabe, so Tatiana is fully in the right to do what she did tongue.

But yeah, this chapter by itself would have made me like Tatiana even if she was a new character introduced her, with her mix of attitude, kindness and being so cute. I'm really looking forward to seeing if/how things will go off the rails.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1242: Jul 21st 2024 at 7:25:30 PM

It’s honestly heartwarming to see how confident Tatiana is in this loop.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1243: Jul 28th 2024 at 9:36:47 AM

Chapter 216: Love that Tatiana acknowledges how shady Fuuko and the rest are.

In the previous loop, Tatiana activated Untouchable when she blew her birthday cake. Here she stops a moment before doing that and gets dazzled by a fashion show on TV. I'm inclined to think God figured her happiest moment had changed and wanted to maximize the tragedy. That bastard.

Thankfully the Union is there to stop things from going out of hand. Excited to see how they'll make it all seem like part of the show.

Side notes: Cool detail with Billy's copied ability having its name splash glitch out. And we're really moving forward with the Tatiana-Chikara ship.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1244: Aug 4th 2024 at 10:33:36 AM

Chapter 217: Thank god for hologram tech!

Fuuko letting her nose get crushed by Untouchable was badass.

RebelFalcon ULTRANumb from ... (Private)
#1245: Aug 4th 2024 at 12:54:24 PM

Hope the Union has good dental, cause I think Fuuko's front teeth got knocked out too.

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
Cross (Don’t ask)
#1246: Aug 4th 2024 at 1:02:48 PM

With all the stuff the Union gets into it would be funnier if they didn't.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#1247: Aug 4th 2024 at 2:34:41 PM

Fuuko is the boss. She can self-servingly implement the member benefits according to her needs.

Shadow-Whisperer Comedy guy from Tacoland Since: Jun, 2022
Comedy guy
#1248: Aug 4th 2024 at 6:43:43 PM

[up] Remember that in this world Fuuko is an oil baroness, so she has the money to do whatever she wants.

This resolution really shows the difference between Juiz's Union and Fuuko's Union, since Fuuko really cares about everyone as people, while Juiz became a bit too utilitarian after she lost Victor. They obviously had the technology to make Gina's ball project a hologram of herself the previous loop, but there was no point, since it wouldn't help her fight [UMAs], but Fuuko wants to make sure her friend is as comfortable as she can be.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#1249: Aug 4th 2024 at 8:04:40 PM

Yeah Fuuko goes for the friendship route, even though it's the harder path to tread.

Anyway, I'm a little surprised that Soul hasn't tried to pull anything. Maybe they're just gearing up for something big.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#1250: Aug 4th 2024 at 9:18:29 PM

I also feel that Juiz was too passive a leader, even in the face of Ragnarok. Something called out in story by Andy, Billy, and Anno Un This is not an issue that Fuuko has. On the flip side, Juiz on her own in the 100th Loop got the strongest Union to date, something surpassed only by Fuuko, in large part due to her more proactive approach.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 4th 2024 at 9:18:51 AM


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