The Hindsight tropes, Hilarious in Hindsight, Harsher in Hindsight, and Heartwarming in Hindsight, are among the most misused Audience Reaction tropes on this site. Many people don't understand that the tropes require more than just "This happened, so that happened", and end up adding examples which either lack connection or the substance that makes them funny/serious/not-so-funny/heartwarming. Some of them may be suited better for other tropes (ex: Life Imitates Art), while some may not belong on TV Tropes at all (such as ones involving politicians, due to Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment).
Please report any Hindsight example that you feel are questionable, and we'll analyze them to see if they are actually examples or not.
Remember that the Hindsight tropes are Audience Reactions. That means if an example under review discusses significant fan response pointing out the hindsight, the example can't be cut solely for being too tenuous for this thread.
- Creator's character/portrayal dies in work and then creator dies in real life, unless their fictional death is closely similar to their real one (such as Billy Bob Joe portraying a character who dies from pancreatic cancer, then Billy Bob dies from pancreatic cancer himself)
- Mundane word related to something terrible (such as "corona" or "Epstein") unless there's more to the connection (such as someone named "Corona" having the flu)
- Creator appears in work then becomes more controversial later on.
- A common event (such as a typical natural disaster) happens in work, then happens in real life (unless they are closely similar, such as the event happening to the same area in both reality and fiction around the same time) For once, not everything related to disease has to do with COVID-19, not everything related to racism and Police Brutality has to do with George Floyd and Black Lives Matter, and not everything related to sexual abuse has to do with #MeToo.
- A common/generic concept was used in this work and then later reused in that work (too loose for a connection, unless the concept is so unique it's identified with the work)
- Two actors appear together then do so in another work
- Hindsight examples involving recent events, due to them often being shoehorns. Specifically:
- COVID-19 examples, before 75% of the population has returned to normal
- George Floyd/2020 Black Lives Matter examples, before protests have declined
- Examples which fall guilty of Older Than They Think, such as "Make X Great Again" slogans. Aside from violating the ROCEJ, this slogan has been in use since the 1940s.
- Characters using slurs which are treated as annoying at worst in the work, but is now harsher due to how severe the slur is made now. Discrimination has always existed with that slur. (May qualify for Values Dissonance if work is at least 20 years old.)
Note: As of January 2022, "Funny Aneurysm" Moment is no longer separate from Harsher in Hindsight.
- The former redirects to the latter and all wicks to the former (with the exception of ones on archive pages and the YMMV Redirects index) must either be moved to the latter (if they're valid) or removed (if they're invalid).
- The subpages for the former are still accessible from this page. After a subpage for "Funny Aneurysm" Moment has been completely cleaned up, turn it into a redirect to the Harsher in Hindsight subpage for the same medium to preserve inbounds.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 21st 2023 at 11:51:25 AM
Cut both.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI cut the Pandemic one for Persona 4.
Edited by sgamer82 on Jun 15th 2020 at 7:30:40 AM
If you don't know which lines it's referring to, then at the very least it's a zero-context example.
This is on Codename: Kids Next Door under "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
- The schtick of Count Spankulot, a minor villain in the series, was mildly amusing in the early 2000s, but his kind of character would not fly at all in a contemporary cartoon. Its unfortunate enough that his whole gimmick is being a vampire that stalks and spanks kids (while played for laughs and portrayed as being wrong, corporal punishment like this is taken much more seriously in modern times), but his behaviour and prison record for doing this in-series now makes it very easy to equate him with being a possible pedophile with a sick fetish (though thankfully in-universe his character is merely a vampiric Child Hater).
That sounds more like Unfortunate Implications, which requires citation.
Bringing up these examples from YMMV.Bad Movie Beatdown:
- "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
- The Jazz Singer review has a joke about Doug Walker sleeping with Mike Ellis which gets pretty uncomfortable when a list of grievances came out and Ellis sexually harassed multiple people.
- Describes the scene with the Japanese family in 2012 as unintentionally funny, but admits showing anything from the scene would be tacky after Japan got hit with a tsunami in real life like in the movie. Then he released the original joke intended in a re-edited version for YouTube.
- In his review of The Specialist, he says that "Everyone loves James Woods". Not so much nowadays. And that's all we'll say about that.
- This line as well, which eerily feels like foreshadowing.
"Told you James Woods would be evil."
- This line as well, which eerily feels like foreshadowing.
- Hilarious in Hindsight:
- In the Equilibrium review, he shouts "Puppy power!" at one point.
- The joke was already funny, but Film Brain commenting that Wesley Snipes avenging his childhood martial arts instructor in The Art of War II is ridiculous, adding "What's next, his pet dog?" gets even better now that John Wick is a thing.
- In his review of Shadow Man, he does a massive Face Palm after Steven Seagal somehow manages to shoot down a helicopter with just a handgun. Flash-forward to 2015, and James Bond does the same thing (albeit in a way that doesn't look anywhere near as ridiculous) in Spectre.
- Early on in his review of Gamer, Film Brain expresses bewilderment as to why one of the players in the opening battle is just standing there exchanging fake money with what appears to be a bank clerk. Years later, when a re-edited version of the review was posted to YouTube, viewers immediately worked out what the player was doing: carrying out some microtransactions.
That James Woods example has no context, using an ROCEJ sinkhole in an attempt to get away with that.
Limpin' with the bizkit.- FAM:
- Jazz Singer review: If the sex is non-consensual or harassing in any way, might be legit. As written, not an example.
- Without knowing what "the scene with the Japanese family in 2012" entails or what it has to do with tsunamis, impossible to tell if this is an example. As written, not an example.
- James Woods: ZCE
- HIH:
- Equilibrium: ZCE
- Wesley Snipes does not play John Wick. Not an example.
- Steven Seagal does not play James Bond. Not an example.
- Might be an example? Not clear what a "player" is in this context. Is it a player character in a video game? Could use more context.
This is on Defunctland under Hilarious in Hindsight:
- With Chuck E Cheese filing for bankruptcy in 2020, Charles Entertainment Cheese is no longer powerful.
Edited by fragglelover on Jun 17th 2020 at 11:49:32 AM
Too general of a concept. Cut away.
back lolThis is on The George Lopez Show:
- "Funny Aneurysm" Moment:
- An episode in the final season involves George being in the local neighborhood watch. While their goal is a little different (it involves finding a child molester who ends up being a woman) it is a little jarring considering the George Zimmerman incident. (A Hispanic man named George who was also involved in neighborhood watch).
- In "The Show Dyslexic", George jokingly tries to get out of going to a parent-teacher meeting by suggesting they do it over the phone. Phones and laptops have all but replaced every other form of communication thanks to the Coronavirus Disease 2019 Pandemic.
Shoehorn, shoehorn. Remove 'em both.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.Found this on YMMV.Chzo Mythos:
- Hilarious in Hindsight: A character in 7 Days just WANTS TO GO TO SPAAAAAAACCCCEEEEEEE
- The villain stalking you in Trilby's Notes is a tall, thin man in a suit who wears a blank white mask. His name is The Tall Man. Sound familiar?
First bullet's an easy cut, second one less so. There's never been any outright confirmation if he was an inspiration, but tons of people have noted the many, many similarities between Chzo's Tall Man and the Slender Man. Some of them oddly specific, like their association with trees.
Edited by Primis on Jun 17th 2020 at 1:16:33 AM
This is on Home Alone under Harsher in Hindsight:
- In the second movie, there is a scene where Kevin explores the World Trade Center and takes pictures from the observation deck. Some television broadcasts completely omit the scene for this reason. Even if it doesn't make one uncomfortable or sad, it definitely dates the movie.
While scenes with the World Trade Center in them being censored nowadays is definitely a thing, I don't think it counts for this trope.
back lolYeah. Since there weren't any planes ramming into towers in that movie, I think you know what to do...
Cut it. Just in case you didn't get it.
Limpin' with the bizkit.Yahtzee's commentary at the bottom of this page attributes most of the Tall Man's design to the Zealot from Blood 2, and there's a picture included. he describes a few other influences, but doesn't mention Slender Man.
Edited by ChloeJessica on Jun 17th 2020 at 9:54:32 AM
In that case, I think it fits, we should just update it to be more clear.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI think the example is saying Slender Man was inspired by the Tall Man, not the other way around.
They said "tall man myths that preceded the games", implying both were inspired by the same thing but neither was inspired directly by the other.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessSlender Man's creator, Victor Surge, did not cite the Tall Man as an inspiration. well, he did, but a different one.
These examples on FunnyAneurysmMoment.Music:
- While we're at Corona, "Disco Band" by Scotch, The One With the rhythmic cough percussion. Of course the Youtube video is peppered with comments "Corona brought me here", and what makes the thing blackest ironic is that those aren't Scotsmen...they are an Italo disco band from Bergamo, where Corona hit worst.
- The Lonely Island have a song called "YOLO", talking about how to stay safe and protect the life you've been given. However, a LOT of lines become less paranoid in light of 2020's Covid-19 outbreak and subsequent quarantine.
There's no such thing as too much Purell!And never travel by car or bus, boat or by rail...by plane, and don't travel at all...YOLO, say no-no/Isolate yourself, and just roll solo...
- Hell, the song explicitly ends by telling listeners not to go outside or they'll die. Similar to many shelter-at-home laws that have passed in response to the rapid spread of Covid-19.
- Another Domingão performance got this (or Hilarious in Hindsight, depending on your view), as he received Corona singer Olga de Souza (who is Brazilian), and Fausto noted that "The Rhythm of Night" "is a hit is Italy, is a hit in Spain". In 2020, those were the two first European countries hit by the ''corona''virus pandemic. (many comments on a Brazilian interview with Souza are people noting that the video was somehow showing on their recommendations during the pandemic, but in a joking way, of course) Corona's second single, "Baby Baby", also opens with a lyric that people found ironic given what the coronavirus forced: "Baby baby, why can't we just stay together?"
Cut them all.
Honestly, at this point it seems like we're just cutting Covid entries on principle. That's how I've interpreted the note on every Hindsight page specifically asking to not randomly add entries about Covid.
Edited by sgamer82 on Jun 18th 2020 at 11:10:08 AM
That's the problem, I don't know what line it's referring to and how it relates to George Floyd and not any other instance of someone being killed by a cop.
Edited by mr_allen on Jun 15th 2020 at 12:50:08 PM