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Is StoryReset a Retcon-type trope or not?

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Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#1: Jan 15th 2020 at 1:44:48 PM

I was going to add it to Retcon but decided against it to avoid an Edit War.

Would you, in general, consider Story Reset as a retcon trope or keep it as Continuity Tropes as well?

4tell0life4 Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#2: Jan 15th 2020 at 5:37:25 PM

I believe it is.

On the other hand, the way it is written sounds like the writer is aiming at making an Alternate Timeline...

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#3: Jan 16th 2020 at 4:04:09 AM

It seems like this is a duplicate of Canon Discontinuity

Edited by WikiWanderer on Jan 16th 2020 at 1:06:32 PM

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#4: Jan 16th 2020 at 7:03:43 AM

[up] No, that trope is when some part of canon (can be of any scale) is disregarded by the later part of the work, with everyone/thing acting as if they never happened

Retcon is "changing", Canon Discontinuity is "deleting"

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#5: Jan 16th 2020 at 7:35:17 AM

The description clearly states previous events are being deleted, and the newer stories are basically replaced by different stories entirely. It even compares the trope to Continuity Reboot which is also not a Retcon because it's a completely different canon. this is basically a lighter version of Continuity Reboot where instead of starting from scratch you start from right after some previous installment, which is already covered by Canon Discontinuity.

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Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#6: Jan 16th 2020 at 9:51:40 AM

[up] I thought Soft Reboot was a lighter version of Continuity Reboot, so there's two tropes that are similar but not redundant?

Should we add something to the canonical list of trope distinctions on Story Reset vs Soft Reboot vs Continuity Reboot?

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#7: Jan 16th 2020 at 11:08:17 AM

[up]It's a bit between soft and hard reboot in a way.

Continuity Reboot = completely new canon

Soft Reboot = feels like a reboot, but it's technically the same continuity

Story Reset / Canon Discontinuity = some stuff is still canon, some isn't

Edited by WikiWanderer on Jan 16th 2020 at 8:10:56 PM

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#8: Jan 16th 2020 at 2:07:33 PM

[up] Canon Discontinuity doesn't have to go so far as to reset the story. It can just abandon a few plot threads or story elements for one.

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#9: Jan 16th 2020 at 2:51:13 PM

[up]well, the examples don't reflect that. I haven't checked very thoroughly or anything, but quite a few of the examples including the page image erase a whole movie or comic or whatever from the timeline, which would fit under Story Reset going by the description. Maybe it could be a subtrope, but in that case a lot of examples will have to be moved.

From the examples I suspect this trope was going for a time travel thing (2 that don't fit that mold were added by me recently, and turns out they were both already on Canon Discontinuity), but the description isn't clear about that at all.

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