Sinkhole cleanup

The problem is that this frequently happens with ensemble tropes where there are at least five names listed, so appending the sinkholes to the names as will just make the entries unnecessarily long. Since these characters are hypotheticals anyway, they don't need to have additional characterization tropes that aren't relevant to the trope it's Playing With, right?

Shipping has a lot of Chained Sinkholes, such as in the following paragraph:

Canon and authorial intent do not dictate people's shipping preference. You'd be hard-pressed to find anything that honestly puts any sort of restraint on shipping preference. Characters may be shipped despite being still in grade school, of the wrong sexuality, biologically related, dead, Just Friends, mortal enemies or just generally the bane of each other's existence, separated by an age gap of decades or centuries, not of the same narrative continuum, part of a story where romance just isn't an issue, inanimate objects, nigh total strangers, considered as a possible couple at all only because they're both left single after you're done pairing everybody else, polar opposites in terms of morality, extremely implausible as a couple by design or even outright denied to ever possibly get together by Word of God. Even when the source material goes as far as to have an Official Couple, sometimes fumbling execution or Values Dissonance will drive fans towards emotional investments diametric to those the author intended. The "I Love You" Stigma, occasionally invoked by some productions, further complicates matters, even if the characters express the sentiment in other ways.

We could remove all non-shipping tropes from there. Should that work?

Good start. I think Het Is Ew, and possibly others, are used incorrectly as well.

This is a commented-out (likely as a ZCE) example on Crosses the Line Twice:

• Sausage Party was already on the other side of the line before it could even cross it.

This set of chained sinkholes needs to be rewritten.

Edit: Looking at the trope example tree on the work's YMMV page, maybe we can use that as a guide to rewrite the example on the trope page?

Edited by Berrenta on Jan 19th 2021 at 8:57:06 AM

The picture for Henry Stickmin Series has two potholes each for each character on their first and last name.

The caption on Fighting from the Inside is a chained sinkhole (potholing it to just Heroic Willpower would be fine), and there are multiple chained potholes in the description.

Found on Gush.Literature.

• Jorge Luis Borges is a creative gen ius. Shall I go on? I have no need.

The letters in "genius" (except the i, which is likely once potholed to an old trope) are individually potholed. How are we approaching this one?

It used to link to his short story Literature.The Library Of Babel before namespaces. Someone cut the wick instead of following the disambig instructions.

What is the purpose of that Gush/ namespace in the first place? Does it predate sugarwiki or something?

Doubt it. Gush/ is a subpage to list Gushing About Shows You Like, and that's part of Sugar Wiki.

Bloodless Carnage seems to have issues with sinkholes. I removed some of them, but I suggest the rest of the article be kept an eye on.

Everything but the Girl has this example:

• This is what triggers Hal's Face–Heel Turn as "Titan" in Megamind; he only agreed to the premise of becoming a superhero on the assumption that, as Metro City's newest protector, Roxanne would have to fall for him, and when he found that this wasn't the case...

I think If I Can't Have You… can work.

OK, I took care of it. Thanks for the suggestion.

I just took a look at UsefulNotes.Indonesia for a wick check, and, ooh boy:

• Indonesian soap ("sinetron", short for "sinema elektronik", "electronic cinema") is infamous for having lots of Cliché Storm like overuse of Arc Fatigue, Conflict Ball, Critical Research Failure, Idiot Plot, Wangst, etc. since Viewers Are Morons are still believed by many creators there. The story is almost always an absolutely-oblivious-to-danger Naïve Everygirl that enters the life of a man where love grows. However, either it the mother of the man or the love rival, they're always more than eager to make the heroine's life hell & full of sadness and she never retaliated. Those kinds of villians usually believe that by torturing the heroine for no adequately explained reason whatsoever, their lifes will be happier. They love poisoning the heroine, accuse their lovers of cheating to break them up, and sometimes refuse to clean up. ,They also usually successfully pull Karma Houdinis to our disappointment, but others aren't so lucky, finally getting their Just Desserts in the final episodes.

Oh, Dear... That reads rather like something run through Google Translate. I'm trying to decide whether the paragraph is worth trying to salvage. Note that it is claiming "Overuse of <several YMMV concepts>" in addition to actual tropes.

EDIT: A quick skim through the rest of the page makes me think that the whole thing needs other help, as that paragraph only stands out as middling-bad in the overall article.

Edited by underCoverSailsman on May 9th 2021 at 3:37:10 AM

CondemnedByHistory.Music has quite the Sinkhole infestation, such as explanations that not even Christian stations play the listed Christmas songs anymore being accompanied with a hole to Everyone Has Standards.

Edited by BigJimbo on Jun 7th 2021 at 5:45:50 AM

Oi, Everyone Has Standards is NRLEP.

Found this on Kissing Tropes:

«So many types of kisses, so little time. They can make shippers Squee or burst into tears.»

The Die for Our Ship sinkhole seems irrelevant, ‘cuz they can cry ‘cuz of dissapointment or being touched by the kiss.

Edited by Delibirda on Jun 17th 2021 at 12:50:33 PM

Chained sinkhole on Podcast.Drunken Peasants:

• Schoolyard Bully All Grown Up: In Episode 108, TJ speculates that the reason why a panel of Fox News Channel anchors were all sitting around and making really snarky and mean-spirited comments about Hillary Clinton eating at Chipotle was because they are simply what happens when high school bullies grow up and have to get real jobs. Then he says that if the ceiling collapsed and killed all of them nothing of value would be lost and nobody should be sad to see them die, even if they had families.

First link of the chain is a trope merged into another per TRS, second link is a NRLEP violation as it's talking about real people, last link trips YMMV detection...Third link is kinda relevant?

I'd honestly just dump that for ROCEJ reasons.

One entry in the Sins of Our Fathers page about The Simpsons Movie links the sentence "[all of Springfield] try to kill Bart, Lisa and Maggie" to Moral Event Horizon. Do you think said pothole should be removed or replaced by something like Would Hurt a Child?

Yes, that makes sense.

The description of Victoria's Secret Compartment has a chained sinkhole.

The first link of the three in the chain is a trope that saw a rename, but I can't replace it as is.

Rephrase into something like "With a big enough size difference"?