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TropayXion The i. one. from HEART Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The i. one.
#201: Dec 6th 2020 at 8:08:48 AM

A new opening would be very ideal, but Vrains kept the same openings for 50 episodes each, except for the twenty episode-long third season.

DevilSketch36 Since: May, 2020
#202: Dec 6th 2020 at 9:20:12 AM

  • Oh wait, you guys don't know about the next arc...just going to keep that to myself
  • At last the ending changed to include Romin. Now that I think about it, that first arc was about understanding Romin, while this second arc forced Yuga to understand and change his mentality more. Maybe arc 3 will be centered on Luke.
  • I don’t know about Luke having the card in his deck. As weird as this sounds, in VRAINS, people have used data to develop their cards. Heck, we don’t know how Yuga created Seven Roads Mage. Maybe Luke’s duel disk took the data from all of his duels, did some sort of psychoanalysis and determined he needed a new card based on his insecurities.
  • As fun as it is to call Luke crazy, he’s just a driven kid who will even do things on his own when he feels no one around will support each other. I actually felt for him when he cried, Luke’s not the type of character that gets emotionally vulnerable. Whether it was in his head or not, it almost seemed like this is was his resolve to keep going. I almost thought this could’ve been something Yuga or one of the villains could’ve planned. Plus, him calling the other clubs was justified, they were just being ignorant jerks about the whole situation. If they’re that desperate for a team player, maybe they’re the ones that should focus on their team work, not Luke.

But the whole Goha talk is interesting and confusing.

  • Neil didn’t betray them, they tried to get him kicked out of the company. At least we know he still works for Goha, he just can’t duel anymore.
  • Mr. Goha actually speaks. That’s unexpected.
  • That’s the thing, how exactly can the villains crush. You can’t just deactivate the Rush Duel format from like the millions of people that live there. All they can do is get people to stop dueling and even that’s not going to work.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#203: Dec 6th 2020 at 6:08:22 PM

I don't think Yuga made any of the Seven Road cards? Otes gave him Sevens Road Magician and he said that cards would be drawn to strong duelist or whatever which to me implies that the Sevens Roads cards all already existed and Yuga managed to obtain them over the course of his life from the point he got Sevens Road Magician on.

ShiningStardust Since: Jun, 2017
#204: Dec 7th 2020 at 12:47:19 AM

This is Yugioh, don't think too much about how the anime duelists got their card lol

As a reminder: we have

  • GX with the "Neos cards literally created by radiation from space" story.
  • 5Ds giving the Signers support for their one-off Signer Dragons.
  • Zexal has support for Numbers when Numbers aren't even from their world.
  • A few of the Pendulum monsters in Arc-V are literally printed by magic mid-duel.
  • And then there's Playmaker in Vrains who just Storm Access'd whatever Link he needs at the moment.

Edited by ShiningStardust on Dec 7th 2020 at 4:22:03 PM

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#205: Dec 7th 2020 at 1:40:54 AM

Neos is done a little better than that. Jaden actually designed them first, and then the space stuff happened a long time later. Still silly, but it at least has a backstory.

For Playmaker, at least he has to do something to create them, which is go into a deadly storm.

Arc-V, even after the spoiler ending, still makes little sense.

5D's isn't any better.

Classic Yugioh did it right. GX is, imo, done pretty well, but slightly strange.

Shadow?
Nickpws Since: Dec, 2014
#206: Dec 7th 2020 at 2:09:42 AM

"classic yugioh did it right" you mean the manga where fusions were literally created out of thin air?

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#207: Dec 7th 2020 at 2:14:58 AM

No, I mean the actual anime where Pegasus created the cards based upon actual tablets he found.

That's "doing it right". It has a clear backstory.

The Manga being weird is another issue.

I never meant the manga at any point. Sorry for not being clear on that. I have never read any manga beyond some of "Season 0" of classic Yu-Gi-Oh.

Plus, the only oddities were some of the really weird things like "undead can't fuse with living", which isn't even an actual fusion. Though that'd be a cool mechanic/ability for a retrain of Mammoth Graveyard.

Shadow?
DevilSketch36 Since: May, 2020
#208: Dec 7th 2020 at 5:16:10 AM

Wait, Reiji didn't make his own Pendulum cards?

As bizarre as it is, there's always some explanation. Heck, we even saw Roa buy new cards after he lost, which he most likely used against Getta.

ShiningStardust Since: Jun, 2017
#209: Dec 7th 2020 at 6:16:02 AM

Reiji made his own, and then printed some for the Lancers.

It's Yuya's first few Pendulums, as well as his Enlightenment Paladin and Nirvana High Paladin, that are printed by magic mid-duel. I think his Odd-Eyes Rebellion and Odd-Eyes Raging are also the same.

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Oh yeah, there's that one odd case with Yuri's deck suddenly getting a Tuner related fusion spell and a Predaplant Tuner out of nowhere, when he's still inside the castle and just walk from one duel to another.

Edited by ShiningStardust on Dec 7th 2020 at 9:23:49 PM

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#210: Dec 7th 2020 at 9:44:19 AM

All these years later and I still don't get the logic of "Prize for a card design contest is the winning entries being launched into SPAAAAAAAAACE!!!"

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#211: Dec 7th 2020 at 9:49:16 AM

GX was insane. Do you need to remember the monkey? Or the Dino DNA?

Edited by Blueace on Dec 7th 2020 at 2:49:31 PM

Wake me up at your own risk.
PhantomBladewing (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#212: Dec 7th 2020 at 10:23:27 AM

[up][up][up][up][up][up]Weren't Fusions, as well as Rituals and other cards like the Toons or Valkyrion, in the manga not actual cards and simply the materials stacked on top of each other?

VengefulBale Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight from Nowhere Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Bishie Gijinka Meta Knight
#213: Dec 7th 2020 at 2:03:22 PM

[up][up][up] It's Kaiba who designed the contest, do you expect sane or sensical things from him?

Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, ngl
Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#214: Dec 7th 2020 at 2:11:53 PM

The anime did actually use a similar idea to the stacking for certain fusion-like monsters(Gate Guardian, etc). That's why a few games made them fusions or rituals.

...Forbidden Memories literally have you do that for fusions, and for rituals they use an animation where the cards get stacked and then tributed for the big cool Ritual monster. That game is weird.

And yeah, GX was still strange, but they at least explained it. Yuya magic-ing cards out of existence is still weird. Though to be fair, I dunno if that's a skill he properly has As Z-Arc. I forget the ending details.

Shadow?
Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#215: Dec 9th 2020 at 6:07:52 PM

Just watched episode 27. Interesting way to give Luke his first loss ever.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#216: Dec 9th 2020 at 6:38:12 PM

...holy shit.

Luke really has never lost has he?

Hell, he's even beaten Yuga. I didn't even notice.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#217: Dec 9th 2020 at 6:44:05 PM

I've never lost, either!

I've never played the game so I've never won, either..

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ShiningStardust Since: Jun, 2017
#218: Dec 9th 2020 at 7:03:55 PM

I'm not sure if Luke beating Yuga can count since Yuga himself technically won as well there XD

Yuga might lost the duel, but he doesn't care because he already won the battle since the start.

Remember, the entire reason the duel happened was because Luke wanted to keep Rush Duel a secret, while Yuga wants to spread it to public. But Yuga secretly have Kaizo do a livestream of that exact duel, meaning Yuga successfully baited Luke into doing exactly what Yuga wants.

Edited by ShiningStardust on Dec 9th 2020 at 10:04:26 PM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#219: Dec 9th 2020 at 7:06:33 PM

Oh right.

I still count it. Yuga won the war, but did lose the duel. That still counts on his Win/Loss record, even if he basically got what he wanted from the moment they started.

I've never lost, either!

I've never played the game so I've never won, either..

Same for me. Truly, we are the true champions of Yugioh.

One Strip! One Strip!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#220: Dec 12th 2020 at 9:09:37 PM

Speaking of losses, today's episode give us Romin's second loss.

I think we've also just gotten the first female villain in Yugioh, and if the scene with Mimi is anything to go by, she might actually be the president of Goha too.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Dec 16th 2020 at 10:26:00 AM

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#221: Dec 12th 2020 at 9:20:59 PM

I think we've also just gotten the first female villain in Yugioh

Akiza, Mai while working for Doma, Asuka under the Society of Light, Saio's sister, Yubel, two of the Dark Signers, Cheryl, that other Knight of Hanoi...

Edited by fredhot16 on Dec 12th 2020 at 9:22:37 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#222: Dec 12th 2020 at 9:32:24 PM

Right. Well, most of those are either mind controlled, or manipulated or lackeys of a male villain. That being said, what I should have said is the first female main Arc Villain.

Like, she's on the same level Neil just was, the Big Bad who needs to be defeated, which I'm sure has never happened in the anime at least.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#224: Dec 12th 2020 at 9:38:52 PM

....

Did Yubel identify as female?

Like, did they even give Yubel a gender? I genuinely don't know for sure.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#225: Dec 12th 2020 at 9:42:54 PM

Yubel may actually be MTF trans, though who knows if that was done intentionally. Female VA, at least.


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