TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Wha Happun? (Matt McMuscles)

Go To

ShirowShirow Dinosaur Hunter from Land of Maple Syrup (Old as dirt)
Dinosaur Hunter
#726: Jul 10th 2021 at 11:03:24 AM

[up] Yeah. I absolutely adored Rearmed and was EXTREMELY put off by the completely different take the 360 game had.

It ditched the goofy charm for f-bombs and blood and grey/brown color and the hero calling a woman a "bitch" a lot. And this was all before the internet uproared with mocking laughter over the Wife-Arm bit.

Yeah, sure it played decent... But at that point in time the 360 was awash in shooting games that played as good or better, all of which had the same drab aesthetic. Which, this video taught me, two of which where made by the same company WHAT THE HELL.

And yeah holy shit that Final Fantasy Fortress bit was complete BS on Square's part Grin clearly did NOT have a good lawyer team.

Edited by ShirowShirow on Jul 10th 2021 at 6:03:43 PM

You are not alone.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#727: Jul 10th 2021 at 1:42:37 PM

Everyone was trying to chase that casual edgy teen market. Capcom threw away all their unique qualities because they were convinced Japanese-style games were out of fashion. And also thought horror was dead, so more punching boulders and shooting generic humans in generic daylight. As Matt said, there are many, many failures of Capcom in this period.

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#728: Jul 10th 2021 at 4:23:30 PM

Ah, Capcom, the gift that keeps giving what nobody wants. tongue

And yeah, I can’t imagine that not paying Grin for 6 months of work was legal in any way…

Edited by Lyendith on Jul 10th 2021 at 1:24:58 PM

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#729: Jul 10th 2021 at 5:13:03 PM

7th gen was the key period where “hardcore gamers” were very adamant of having games be “realistic” and “Mature” and that everything else was “casual kiddy trash”.

Keep in mind that most gamers didn’t care what a game’s aesthetic or tone was, but those people were way too vocal.

No, I never understood why people kept demanding that games be more realistic.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#730: Jul 10th 2021 at 5:14:32 PM

I believe its a graphics thing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#731: Jul 10th 2021 at 5:28:59 PM

Part of it is also that people have a hard time putting away childish things, like the fear of being seen as childish and the desire to be more "mature". Realistic graphics hits two birds with one stone, it makes things look more mature while also tossing out all those old childish things that people were embarrassed about.

Perseus Since: Nov, 2009
#732: Jul 10th 2021 at 5:30:13 PM

Dour, drab, Real Is Brown graphics aren't even actually realistic. The real world is full of color.

powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#733: Jul 10th 2021 at 5:38:54 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, probably.

I mean, gameplay and controls are way more important than graphics. Like, there’s a reason people still play classics like Mario 3 or Sonic 3 today in addition to modern titles.

Note that I’m someone who is much more interested in older consoles than the PS 5 or Series X|S so graphical power appeals to me. There’s only two games across both that I’m interested in: Neptunia Re;Verse and Ratchet and Clank.

Another interesting little factoid is that games with realistic graphics tend to age worse in the graphical department than a game with a more stylized artstyle.

[up][up]And to be honest here, that’s actually a very immature mindset to have. It’s a very high school-like mentality.

Incidentally, High School is when I grew out of that mentality. I was like what you said when I was in 7th grade and grew out of it in a year.

Edited by powerpuffbats on Jul 10th 2021 at 7:42:08 AM

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#734: Jul 10th 2021 at 5:45:02 PM

Tired topic as it is we've pretty much reached the zenith of that mindset with Last of Us 2 which is dour, drab, gritty, and "realistic" to the outright extreme.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#735: Jul 10th 2021 at 5:57:18 PM

And keep in mind that the most popular games on the planet are Minecraft and Fortnite.

So, that combined with the general dislike of TLOU 2, I think the pendulum is starting to swing away for gamers demanding realism.

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#736: Jul 10th 2021 at 6:02:59 PM

[up][up][up] I do remember in middle and school, when I was all about conscious rap and other political and dark music and had an utter contempt for party and dance music.

Then I realized being happy once in a while was pretty cool too. tongue

Edited by Lyendith on Jul 10th 2021 at 3:03:31 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#737: Jul 10th 2021 at 6:08:20 PM

Ah that 2000s cynicism that lead to glorious products like the Ultimate Universe comics where Hulk engages in cannibalism and Captain America hates France and calls people gay as an insult.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
powerpuffbats The crabby fussbudget Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The crabby fussbudget
#738: Jul 10th 2021 at 6:21:09 PM

And people really didn’t like Ultimate Marvel stuff outside of Spider-Man.

And also that 2000s love of cynicism lead to us getting Shadow the Hedgehog and it’s misguided attempt to be “mature” by swearing all the damn time. (I know what I did there.wink.)

AAAAUUUUGGGHHHH!!!!
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#739: Jul 11th 2021 at 10:23:11 AM

The epitaph of that trash has got to be Alone in the Dark 2008 with the attempts to mix crafting, stupid bits of realistic controls like blinking, and failing to be horror while sucking at edge. "I'M THE FUCKING UNIVERSE!"

Cris_Meyers reluctant author, willing misanthrope from Chicagoland (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
reluctant author, willing misanthrope
#741: Jul 11th 2021 at 11:19:34 AM

Yep. It had a blinking mechanic a la that SCP fangame.

Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#742: Jul 11th 2021 at 9:34:25 PM

Let it be known that while there are good devs that close up shop, there are also bad devs that close up due to incompetence or just being bad.

Also man 3rd person cover shooters were all the rage a few gens ago.

TalesofUnder Not Sherlock Holmes from 1900s England Since: May, 2017 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Not Sherlock Holmes
#743: Jul 13th 2021 at 6:36:39 PM

Now it’s sandbox grind-fests that are the hot thing in today’s AAA market.

“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#744: Jul 14th 2021 at 8:40:30 PM

So anyone have any ideas for a Wha Happun that they'd want to see but actually like? I want to see a Wha Happun for The Urbz: Sims in The City. I don't feel guilty for liking it and still enjoy playing the game from time to time, but don't really like the constant Black Eyed Peas music and that very dated endorsement from them.

If I ever scrounge up 80 I feel I don't want to save I might ask for that on Wha Happun. It is the perfect slightly cringy but actually fun/funny thing from the 2000s IMO.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#745: Jul 14th 2021 at 8:44:11 PM

I'd like a Wha Happun focusing on the Heroes of Might and Magic series.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#746: Jul 14th 2021 at 8:52:13 PM

I'd like an episode on the Ouya.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Jul 14th 2021 at 11:53:04 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#747: Jul 14th 2021 at 9:04:08 PM

Oh that one would be fantastic.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Wildcard Since: Jun, 2012
#748: Jul 14th 2021 at 9:09:40 PM

[up][up]Oh any Ouya games you actually enjoy? I've never played but I never bought it just on reputation and just not being too interested in the concept.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#749: Jul 14th 2021 at 9:11:40 PM

Never played it. I'm just betting there's something to dig into there.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Jul 14th 2021 at 12:11:49 PM

Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#750: Jul 15th 2021 at 6:37:16 AM

Oh yeah, that's a good one for a topic.


Total posts: 1,922
Top