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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#3476: Apr 24th 2023 at 11:49:10 AM

I just find it amusing that, with all that happens in the last episode, the discourse is on a name. tongue

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3477: Apr 24th 2023 at 11:58:11 AM

I agree. It’s such minor detail. But I guess that’s what it means to be in a fandom.

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#3478: Apr 24th 2023 at 12:00:35 PM

There's not much else about the episode that's really discussion-worthy. The main drivers for discourse are speculation about where the story's going next, what this or that mystery means, how they're going to resolve xyz situation, or such. This episode answered or resolved basically everything, so there's nothing to really speculate about.

This is such a definitive and satisfying conclusion to everything the show has been up to this point that the only thing left to say is, "That was cool," followed by finding something else to watch.

And you can't fuel a conversation on "The episode was good," alone.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 24th 2023 at 12:02:23 PM

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#3479: Apr 24th 2023 at 12:06:09 PM

To say something on a different subject, I am honestly pretty glad that the Darksaber is gone. I was genuinly tired of how much that thing was just warping every plot it was in around itself.

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#3480: Apr 24th 2023 at 12:08:51 PM

New subject, then: would you recommend this show to any other “Star Wars” fans you know or even any friends that aren’t that invested in “Star Wars”?

Edited by fredhot16 on Apr 24th 2023 at 12:09:33 PM

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#3481: Apr 24th 2023 at 12:11:18 PM

Oh, I certainly would.

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#3482: Apr 24th 2023 at 12:13:08 PM

Early on, yes. After it started to lean into the Clone Wars/Rebels connection... maybe? Depends on whether they'd be interested in either of those.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3483: Apr 24th 2023 at 12:44:32 PM

To say something on a different subject, I am honestly pretty glad that the Darksaber is gone. I was genuinly tired of how much that thing was just warping every plot it was in around itself.

Season 4: The Quest To Repair The Darksaber.

Season 5: The War to Claim The Darksaber, Part II

Season 6: The Ghost of Tarre Vizsla Returns to Claim The Darksaber


Seriously though, I think at this point we might be able to tentatively say the Mandalorian plotline involving ascendancy and unification and the darksaber might be over. (I say "tentatively" because the same thing happened in Rebels, and they just Happy Ending Override'd it).

Not to say that the Mandos rebuilding Mandalore and the unification of Bo and stuff won't be plot points going forward, but we might be past the point where the overall plot is about establishing and exploring those things.

Keeping in Mando's general theme of being the show that facilitates other stories, it looks like the next season will be instead the plot that Rangers of The New Republic was supposed to have. So... even os, we might get more of Din being a supporting character.

Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#3484: Apr 24th 2023 at 5:42:05 PM

Is it weird that I really want to know what House Din and Grogu belong to now? The clan is Clan Din, I guess, since Mando started it in season one, but they've never mentioned if he was a member of a specific House or not.

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#3485: Apr 25th 2023 at 3:25:33 AM

I think its possible that the actual plot line outlined for "The Mandalorian" (the series, not the character) is over. Mandalore is reclaimed, Grogu is officially adopted, Mando is a "real" Mandalorian again, the Darksaber is gone.

S4 will be branded as "The Mandalorian" but its actually season 1 of Rangers of the New Republic no longer starring Cara Dume.

The original season 3 was going to be what got turned into the Book of Boba Fett.

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#3486: Apr 25th 2023 at 1:45:24 PM

[up]Mando was gonna fight the Pikes originally?

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#3487: Apr 26th 2023 at 10:48:56 AM

No, he was going to be gallivanting around the galaxy whilst Grogu trained with Luke. Possibly the whole bit with finally getting back to Mandalore and the Mythosaur would be the finale?

Then the original season 3 would have more about the Mandalorians as a whole etc and the spy stuff and shadow Council would have been part of the Cara Dume show.

Essentially I suspect that we have seen all the same plot points we were meant to see but condensed right down.

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#3488: Apr 26th 2023 at 2:17:27 PM

My assumption was that the original idea was that Din would be fighting Bo-Katan over the darksaber, personally. But that could be totally wrong. Certainly isn't what we got to say the least and I suppose there's no need to change that.

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#3489: Apr 26th 2023 at 4:44:14 PM

[up][up]I see, the Mando parts of BOBF would have been season 3 just expanded more. And yea, I think the whole "spies in the New Republic" thing was just lifted from Cara's show and pasted in here.

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#3490: Apr 27th 2023 at 1:42:23 AM

Yes, but that's purely a guess from me. Like I say, I'm fairly sure the plot beats of "the Mandoverse" corner of Star Wars haven't actually changed but they have been switched around a bit.

It sort of explains why the pacing has felt a bit weird - all of these things were originally going to be given more breathing space but it's better than having to rewrite the entire plot from scratch, probably.

I expect there will be plots and points that have been dropped entirely but I don't suppose we'll know unless we get Word of God on that.

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#3491: Apr 27th 2023 at 3:41:49 AM

Several recent interviews do at least spell out that there was a ton of stuff that was cut to keep the final conflict confined in two episodes.

For example, Temura Morrison has said that Boba Fett was originally planed to have a role in the season.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3492: Apr 27th 2023 at 8:19:10 AM

I figure there must have been an entire criminal underworld aspect to the season that was largely cut out. First the pirate guy escapes, then they explicitly establish that the pirates are working with Gideon, and then they have no actual relevance to the rest of the season.

In the big picture, it comes off as an unrelated encounter they just kind of slapped onto Gideon with dialogue, but I can imagine if something was cut out of the season, it was probably more of that. That might've been where Boba was supposed to appear:

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 27th 2023 at 4:00:00 AM

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#3493: Apr 27th 2023 at 1:59:24 PM

Catching up

I did notice this a couple pages back

"Has anyone actually been confused by this? At all?"

From what I've seen, in some parts yeah. Aside from this thread I've seen some people talking about it elsewhere and being confused.

I saw some posts on Tumblr joking about it too. About Favreu just letting people believe Din's name was one way for years and then just suddenly dropped this.

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#3494: Apr 27th 2023 at 2:03:43 PM

So extreme version of Grogu reveal.

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#3495: Apr 27th 2023 at 4:14:17 PM

The Pitch Meeting comedy skit for Mandalorian season 3 is out!

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3496: Apr 27th 2023 at 4:21:14 PM

I take it Ryan really didn't like the Lower-Deck Episode.

Or maybe he doesn't like Lower Deck Episodes in and of themselves? He seems to be criticizing the concept entirely.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 27th 2023 at 4:37:09 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#3497: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:16:29 PM

The way the intern gag is shown makes me think their issue is more how Mando executed those episodes

Its a riff on how unnecessarily dragged out and laboring it is

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3498: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:34:23 PM

I guess. The execution of the gag mostly just felt off when applied to the actual show. The things the gag specifically takes jabs at - them claiming the story has nothing to do with the overall plot, and that the characters and ideas in it will never actually appear or be relevant again afterwards - aren't things that are actually the case for the episode they're making fun of.

That plus the set up for the gag being outright just "an episode of a show not about the main character? Why would anyone ever do that?" is why it read to me more like a criticism of Lower-Deck Episode as a trope rather than the Mandalorian in particular.

It makes sense if it's more a gag to stroke the fan backdraft over the episode vs the episode itself, though. I imagine Ryan doesn't have the time to watch an entire season of a series just for the sake of sourcing jokes.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 27th 2023 at 6:34:52 AM

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#3499: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:49:15 PM

Eh, I think with modern season lengths and structures, Lower Decks episodes are a lot...harder? When it's one episode out of 20-26, it feels like worldbuilding and a fresh perspective. When it's one episode out of 8, in a fairly serialized story, it just feels like 'why are you wasting your time with this?'

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#3500: Apr 27th 2023 at 6:51:41 PM

I was surprised when I found out how many people disliked that episode. But then again, I'm a sucker for world building, so of course it would appeal to me.


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