There's not much else about the episode that's really discussion-worthy. The main drivers for discourse are speculation about where the story's going next, what this or that mystery means, how they're going to resolve xyz situation, or such. This episode answered or resolved basically everything, so there's nothing to really speculate about.
This is such a definitive and satisfying conclusion to everything the show has been up to this point that the only thing left to say is, "That was cool," followed by finding something else to watch.
And you can't fuel a conversation on "The episode was good," alone.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 24th 2023 at 12:02:23 PM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.New subject, then: would you recommend this show to any other “Star Wars” fans you know or even any friends that aren’t that invested in “Star Wars”?
Edited by fredhot16 on Apr 24th 2023 at 12:09:33 PM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.Season 4: The Quest To Repair The Darksaber.
Season 5: The War to Claim The Darksaber, Part II
Season 6: The Ghost of Tarre Vizsla Returns to Claim The Darksaber
Seriously though, I think at this point we might be able to tentatively say the Mandalorian plotline involving ascendancy and unification and the darksaber might be over. (I say "tentatively" because the same thing happened in Rebels, and they just Happy Ending Override'd it).
Not to say that the Mandos rebuilding Mandalore and the unification of Bo and stuff won't be plot points going forward, but we might be past the point where the overall plot is about establishing and exploring those things.
Keeping in Mando's general theme of being the show that facilitates other stories, it looks like the next season will be instead the plot that Rangers of The New Republic was supposed to have. So... even os, we might get more of Din being a supporting character.
I think its possible that the actual plot line outlined for "The Mandalorian" (the series, not the character) is over. Mandalore is reclaimed, Grogu is officially adopted, Mando is a "real" Mandalorian again, the Darksaber is gone.
S4 will be branded as "The Mandalorian" but its actually season 1 of Rangers of the New Republic no longer starring Cara Dume.
The original season 3 was going to be what got turned into the Book of Boba Fett.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."No, he was going to be gallivanting around the galaxy whilst Grogu trained with Luke. Possibly the whole bit with finally getting back to Mandalore and the Mythosaur would be the finale?
Then the original season 3 would have more about the Mandalorians as a whole etc and the spy stuff and shadow Council would have been part of the Cara Dume show.
Essentially I suspect that we have seen all the same plot points we were meant to see but condensed right down.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."My assumption was that the original idea was that Din would be fighting Bo-Katan over the darksaber, personally. But that could be totally wrong. Certainly isn't what we got to say the least and I suppose there's no need to change that.
Leviticus 19:34Yes, but that's purely a guess from me. Like I say, I'm fairly sure the plot beats of "the Mandoverse" corner of Star Wars haven't actually changed but they have been switched around a bit.
It sort of explains why the pacing has felt a bit weird - all of these things were originally going to be given more breathing space but it's better than having to rewrite the entire plot from scratch, probably.
I expect there will be plots and points that have been dropped entirely but I don't suppose we'll know unless we get Word of God on that.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."I figure there must have been an entire criminal underworld aspect to the season that was largely cut out. First the pirate guy escapes, then they explicitly establish that the pirates are working with Gideon, and then they have no actual relevance to the rest of the season.
In the big picture, it comes off as an unrelated encounter they just kind of slapped onto Gideon with dialogue, but I can imagine if something was cut out of the season, it was probably more of that. That might've been where Boba was supposed to appear:
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 27th 2023 at 4:00:00 AM
Catching up
I did notice this a couple pages back
"Has anyone actually been confused by this? At all?"
From what I've seen, in some parts yeah. Aside from this thread I've seen some people talking about it elsewhere and being confused.
I saw some posts on Tumblr joking about it too. About Favreu just letting people believe Din's name was one way for years and then just suddenly dropped this.
Bow to the PrototypeThe Pitch Meeting comedy skit for Mandalorian season 3 is out!
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I take it Ryan really didn't like the Lower-Deck Episode.
Or maybe he doesn't like Lower Deck Episodes in and of themselves? He seems to be criticizing the concept entirely.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 27th 2023 at 4:37:09 AM
I guess. The execution of the gag mostly just felt off when applied to the actual show. The things the gag specifically takes jabs at - them claiming the story has nothing to do with the overall plot, and that the characters and ideas in it will never actually appear or be relevant again afterwards - aren't things that are actually the case for the episode they're making fun of.
That plus the set up for the gag being outright just "an episode of a show not about the main character? Why would anyone ever do that?" is why it read to me more like a criticism of Lower-Deck Episode as a trope rather than the Mandalorian in particular.
It makes sense if it's more a gag to stroke the fan backdraft over the episode vs the episode itself, though. I imagine Ryan doesn't have the time to watch an entire season of a series just for the sake of sourcing jokes.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 27th 2023 at 6:34:52 AM
Eh, I think with modern season lengths and structures, Lower Decks episodes are a lot...harder? When it's one episode out of 20-26, it feels like worldbuilding and a fresh perspective. When it's one episode out of 8, in a fairly serialized story, it just feels like 'why are you wasting your time with this?'

I just find it amusing that, with all that happens in the last episode, the discourse is on a name.