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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#301: Dec 29th 2019 at 1:04:44 PM

There's also being responsible for the clone army by being it's genetic doner.

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#303: Dec 30th 2019 at 1:06:22 AM

While that’s true, Lucas is no longer the authority on the story. Disney is.

So Jango Fett and Boba Fett are still in the zone of “maybe Mandalorian, maybe not but they’ll still tell people they are”.

Disney never contradicted him, so there's no reason to assume Boba reverted back to the way he was before.

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#304: Dec 30th 2019 at 8:01:52 PM

Personally, I'm leaning toward assuming that Jango was a Mandalorian, and hope writers follow.

The reason being the Doylist history and purpose of Mandalorians. Mandolorians were, essentially, made to be Boba Fett's culture. So having Jango not be a Mandalorian would be odd.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#305: Dec 31st 2019 at 8:49:51 AM

Yeah, Jango was a Mandalorian. Boba is not.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#306: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:01:21 AM

Yeah, it's even in their names: Jango was named after a Western antihero, while Boba was named after delicious tea with tapioca.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#307: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:05:42 AM

Even in Legends, Boba didn't become a Mandalorian until he was like 50 something. Well after the timeframe of this show by about...12 years or so.

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#308: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:07:31 AM

Regardless of whether or not Jango Fett is Mandalorian, I think there is a point to be made about the fact that Boba's a clone.

A clone made from the same genetic stock as the Clone Troopers, no less.

So. Like. Regardless of Jango, if Boba Fett counts as a Mandalorian, then you kinda have to count all of the Clone Troopers as Mandalorians too. And that just doesn't feel right.

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Krory21 Since: Jan, 2019
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#310: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:20:02 AM

Recent canon makes it very clear Mandalorians are not an ethnicity.

It's almost like the difference between being ethnically Jewish and practicing Judaism.

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#311: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:24:30 AM

The whole Foundling thing is interesting, I agree.

Speaking of, did anyone else have a "Ho-o-oly shit" moment when we found out that Mando was taken in by Death Watch? I'm used to Star Wars works existing largely in their own bubbles and not really referencing each other that much (I don't read the books), so that bit of continuity blew my mind.

And now the Darksaber's in play. I don't want Mando to return Baby Yoda to his home planet. I want Baby Yoda to become a proper Mandalorian warrior and be the next wielder of the Darksaber. That feels poetic.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#312: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:29:25 AM

[up] We know next to nothing about Yoda's species or their home planet - George Lucas apparently always wanted that to remain a mystery. I could see the two run into other force-sensitives at some point, but I doubt they'll ever find "his people".

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Dec 31st 2019 at 6:29:47 PM

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#313: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:47:25 AM

Was he taken in by Death Watch? I thought it was just some other group of Mandalorians. He makes mention of some other group.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#314: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:49:32 AM

@Tobias Same. He can be called the Yodalorian.

Also it was a Mandalorian Jedi that united all the Mandolorian clans. Maybe we'll get a return to that.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#315: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:50:32 AM

I doubt we'll ever see the Child be anything but a Child, given the time scale involved.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#316: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:51:58 AM

Definitely. Since the kid's already 50 years old and still a baby the Mandalorian will be long dead by the time he reaches adulthood.

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#317: Dec 31st 2019 at 9:58:18 AM

[up]Which is part of the conflict. You gotta find someone for the kid to grow up with once Mando is gone.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#318: Dec 31st 2019 at 10:01:51 AM

Somehow I expect 'making arrangements for Mando's inevitable death' to be a plot point for later seasons.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#319: Dec 31st 2019 at 10:51:58 AM

Plot twist: Les Mandeux finds the home planet of the Yoda species. It’s full of people, but instead of letting him drop the kid off, they - recognizing a good babysitter when they see one - give all of their kids to him and then boot him off the planet.

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#320: Dec 31st 2019 at 10:59:25 AM

Was he taken in by Death Watch? I thought it was just some other group of Mandalorians. He makes mention of some other group.

Yes. Not only are the Mandalorians sporting the bright blue armor of Death Watch, but at one point we see a clan insignia on one of their shoulders. That's Death Watch's clan insignia. There is no question about which clan made Din Djarin a Foundling.

I'd been suspecting pretty much since the beginning that Mando's anti-droid bias was a Clone War-era resentment against Separatist droids. But I was not prepared for Death Watch.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 31st 2019 at 12:01:46 PM

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#321: Dec 31st 2019 at 11:03:54 AM

Yodas seem to age, not just slower, but at a different rate than humans. If Yoda's age of 900 is typical for their species, then 1 "Yoda Year" is about 10 "Human Years". This makes The Child 5 years old...while still being an infant or a toddler.

He might be an adult in another 50 years, for example. We don't know the exact percentage of their time is spend in childhood.

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Krory21 Since: Jan, 2019
#322: Dec 31st 2019 at 11:07:28 AM

For all we know, Yodas pupate, and BY will spend half of season 2 in a cocoon.

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#323: Dec 31st 2019 at 11:07:58 AM

Of note, there's actually a few connections between the show and Death Watch now.

In addition to the Death Watch troops that rescued Mando as a child and the presence of the Darksaber, we also have that big burly guy that aggro'd at Mando in the Armorer's foundry in an early episode. Who was that asshole?

Well, his name is Paz Vizsla. Of Clan Vizsla. The Clan of Pre Vizsla, leader of Death Watch during the Clone Wars.

So. Yeah.

I've been WTFing about Planet Mandalore apparently no longer being a thing, and now I also have Death Watch and the Darksaber to WTF about. The fact that Mandalorians are basically as extinct as Jedi all of a sudden does not bode well for Bo-Katan Kryze and her side of the Galactic Civil War....

Edited by TobiasDrake on Dec 31st 2019 at 12:11:38 PM

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#324: Dec 31st 2019 at 11:29:28 AM

[up] No relation apparently. The Clan is called Vizsla, while the character's name is Paz Vizla.

I doubt that's just a typo.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#325: Dec 31st 2019 at 11:34:00 AM

I mean, there is a relation, since Jon Favreau voices them both. Plus, I'm pretty sure they spelled it exactly the same in the credits.


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