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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1: Oct 25th 2019 at 10:26:55 AM

This image was ultimately (following many variations on the concept) suggested in the Suggestion thread, potholed to Visual Pun and captioned "The only form of rape that should be allowed to exist.note "

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/laspagcan48oz.png

A countersuggestion from The Walking Dead was then suggested, with or without the first panel:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/we_dont_rape.png

Thoughts? I'll personally take a work example over a literal/visual pun example any day, especially since "rapeseed=canola" might not be common knowledge.

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 25th 2019 at 12:29:10 PM

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#3: Oct 25th 2019 at 11:05:27 AM

first panel seems unnecesary

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4: Oct 25th 2019 at 11:07:02 AM

I wonder about that... first panel establishes that they're not good people since they're depriving the person on the right of water for some reason.

Edited by Synchronicity on Oct 25th 2019 at 1:07:27 PM

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#5: Oct 25th 2019 at 11:08:44 AM

[up][up][up] Same here. I may have been the one who suggested the visual pun/caption in the first place (although the final image was suggested by War Jay 77), but I actually think that the two of The Walking Dead panels better demonstrate the trope.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 28th 2019 at 9:43:37 AM

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#6: Oct 25th 2019 at 11:10:12 AM

Agree with Walking Dead. Could go either way on the panel discussion.

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#7: Oct 25th 2019 at 11:12:41 AM

[tup]1.2, not sure about the first panel.

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#8: Oct 25th 2019 at 11:24:03 AM

1.2 without the first panel.

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#9: Oct 25th 2019 at 12:44:56 PM

[tup] 1.2, both panels to establish villainy per [up][up][up][up][up].

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#10: Oct 25th 2019 at 1:02:32 PM

1.2, both panels.

(The visual pun is great and would make a great page image, too, but a demonstrative example is a demonstrative example.)

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#11: Oct 25th 2019 at 1:06:58 PM

1.2, both panels.

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#12: Oct 25th 2019 at 1:38:06 PM

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#13: Oct 26th 2019 at 10:58:33 AM

I'm not sure how 1.2 is better than the previous image we removed, which was voted away due to it being little more than just text.

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#14: Oct 26th 2019 at 12:03:12 PM

[up]For reference, this is the image in question. After some wiki walking I realized this is an Even Evil Has Standards moment for Negan (the one on the right), but when first looking at the image I thought the bald guy was demanding sex in exchange for water. Maybe the Visual Pun is the way to go.

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#15: Oct 26th 2019 at 12:33:11 PM

Visual puns are even less illustrative than text-heavy images. I'd rather go with no image then.

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#16: Oct 26th 2019 at 12:35:09 PM

Eh, I think there's something visual in the image that adds to it, while the other was just people talking.

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#17: Oct 26th 2019 at 1:51:49 PM

[up][up]Visual Puns are better than nothing as long as they don't mislead readers.

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#18: Oct 26th 2019 at 2:39:09 PM

^ My point is that visual puns are not more illustrative than text-relying images but they get the pass. What are the standards here?

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#19: Oct 26th 2019 at 5:54:51 PM

I guess that if there is no way to illustrate the image due to being too much of a broad concept/difficult to properly illustrate, or if properly illustrating the image would be too nsfw, a visual pun may work better than Just a Face and a Caption or even BUPKIS.

Otherwise, I do think that there are places where visual pun's are pointless.

That said, if the Walking Dead image is better, I think we would be better off with both panels, as opposed to just the second one; at least with the first, panel, one can make out the man's lecherous intentions.

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#20: Oct 26th 2019 at 6:01:22 PM

All panels in the walking dead.

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#21: Oct 26th 2019 at 6:54:39 PM

^^ Any example where a visual pun actually adds to the understanding of a trope?

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#22: Oct 26th 2019 at 6:59:55 PM

[up]If it's nigh-impossible to have an image that actually shows the trope, mind as well have something funny.

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#23: Oct 26th 2019 at 7:01:07 PM

[up] That's my line of thought as well.

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#24: Oct 28th 2019 at 6:33:30 AM

Ok. I have considered it, and I know that if we use the walking dead image, both are necessary. The more I think about it, the more I agree with Adept and rjd1922 that the Visual Pun is the safer option.

Either way, bumping for consensus.

[down] There are valid reasons to hold canola oil in low esteem besides the unfortunate name of the plant it comes from, such as it being less healthy and flavourful than olive oil, schmaltz, or butter. I think most people would understand that "rapeseed" is just an unfortunate name for a plant used to make edible oil.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Oct 28th 2019 at 2:13:34 PM

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#25: Oct 28th 2019 at 10:07:31 AM

I think the Visual Pun would only backfire as some would hate canola oil on the account that it contain that word. But that would depend on whether they are enough of them to have such a reaction.

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