The General Star Wars Thread

Well Cad would have gotten his just deserts at the hands of Boba in a classic Mexican Standoff.

You could easily make a dope movie out of their final duel.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

the issue is Clone wars made Boba kind of a brat... granted I don't like Warrior Saint Did nothing wrong Boba... but I do like has a twisted sense of honor and ethics Boba

Boba kinda needed some character development before I wanted him to take the crown from Cad.

Bounty Hunter would have been a much better game if the credits you collected actually went toward upgrades instead of being a score for secrets unlocks in the gallery..

a GTA esque Bounty hunter game set with Boba having just recovered from his Sarlacc escape.

Featuring the various Crime syndicates vying for power as the Empire fractions and the New republic emerges.

The near death moment has given Boba a moment of clarity 'If you're a DC fan, think Chris Priest run on Deathstroke'

Will you strive to follow the Mando code and be something greater then yourself?

Be like Dengar only in the game till you can retire and leave the life behind

Be like Bosshk always wanting to be the Alpha and top of the Hunter's guild

Join the Black Sun/Crimson Dawn/ Zann Consortium and be part of a growing secret empire

or fall back into your Lawless ways

The only real choice that matters?

Dead or Alive?

I'm A Pervert not an Asshole!

Fuck no. Keep him dead.

As for Cad Bane, you could always make his game a Start of Darkness of sorts or have him be bound by his word to fulfill a more morally righteous contract (like retrieving a kid).

With regards to Hondo, I think the whole bit with terrorizing a peaceful village is probably the worst he's done. Everything else is just shady and ruthless, but not unforgivable (even with regards to the kids it's kind of obvious in hindsight he's doing his best not to harm them).

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

You say that but odds are good next season The Mandalorian and Baby Yoda will run into him (or Jodo Kast).

Edited by Beatman1 on Jan 19th 2020 at 12:34:25 PM

Remember that old comic of Boba Fett climbing out of the Sarlacc with Han’s help, realizing who he was, and falling back in?

I really like the idea of an open world space sim where you're a small scale captain/pilot trying to make their way in a harsh, Empire controlled galaxy.

Do you smuggle your way to riches, just barely avoiding the hammer of the regime? Do you become a merc for the Empire, selling your soul for power and influence? Do you openly join the rebellion, despite it making life harder for you (lets say ports now close to you and you're actively hunted, but the plot benefits are stronger), because it's the right thing to do? Etc.

The key twist here would best be that the Empire is always significantly more powerful than the player, so the game focuses on staying under the radar.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Didn't George Lucas confirm at one point that Boba did survive, though? So he was never actually dead in the first place.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Jan 19th 2020 at 7:18:36 PM

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The EU also kept him alive, that's the magic of Never Found the Body.

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."

Last I checked it was a Sure, Why Not? to a random fan at a convention that ended up getting news coverage.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Which still makes him not dead until somebody at Disney decides to directly contradict it.

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Of course Boba Fett is still alive. He's got another 963 years before the Sarlacc is done digesting him.

Edited by RavenWilder on Jan 19th 2020 at 10:46:13 AM

"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko

I actually like Cad Bane better than Boba Fett. Cad Bane has a personality.

Literally the only thing Boba Fett has going for him is a cool helmet, which the Star Wars fandom hasn't stopped going nuts over in forty years. And. Like. We don't actually need Boba Fett to have his cool helmet. There are plenty of interesting Mandalorian characters who also have cool helmets.

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I really liked The Clone Wars Boba. The idea of him being this kid who plays at being an honorable warrior but is just a selfish punk who's less grand a figure than he thinks is oddly on the nose.

TCW also shows him as already extremely skilled for his age, but makes it clear that skill alone doesn't make him a badass.

The big reason I wanted to see more from him is because those character traits would make him perfect for a coming of age story, especially since "finding he's not as great as he believes and eventually becoming an amoral, brutal cynic" also describes the transition of the Republic to the Empire very well, so it'd make a good juxtaposition.

I guess? George himself clearly didn't care about it or do any follow up about it whatsoever, and since it was just a random comment to an overeager fan treating it like a definitive declaration of Word of God is a little strange.

Plus we've already gotten some indication that Boba's not around any more.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jan 19th 2020 at 11:42:15 AM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.

Apparently a line in the aftermath novels mentions his armor being sold by Jawas.

Meanining he must have escaped the sarlacc but somehow lost his armor which may imply he’s retired.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Being shot by a blind man and then getting swallowed puts a damper on your reputation.

Wake me up at your own risk.

Boba sold his armor because he recognized its merchandising potential. He's a shop owner now.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jan 19th 2020 at 12:10:01 PM

If his business skills are as good as his alleged bounty hunter skills then he should be the CEO of a small corporation by now.

Boba's Armor Imperium. We sell armor and armor accessories!

Edited by Parable on Jan 19th 2020 at 1:08:46 AM

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@Tobias Drake:There are plenty of interesting Mandalorian characters who also have cool helmets.

No, there is plenty of Mandalorian characters who have Boba's helmet.

Seriously, apart from Kotor, I can't think of a single SW media piece that doesn't portray every single mandalorian having the same color-swapped helmet (and, more generally, armor) as Bobba Fett.

I actually like Cad Bane better than Boba Fett. Cad Bane has a personality.Literally the only thing Boba Fett has going for him is a cool helmet I do prefer Bane's design to Fett's too, myself, but to say that Fett's helmet is the only reason he was popular is disingenuous. First off, because there is nothing inherently "cool" about that helmet design. Seriously, compared to say, Vader's dark mask, or the Stormtroopers skullface? It look like a rusted green bucket with a small antenna stuck on it. In fact, his entire armor look like a patchwork of clothes and metal sewn together (which is exactly what make it work -in the context of the movie)

Besides, let's be honest, I love Cad Banes, but he is a copy of Fett. He fits the exact role, the exact archetype that Fett's had, e.g. amoral, tough-as-nail hired gun who uses his wits, grits and gadgets to get ahead in a galaxy of opera heroes and villains.

He just do it while also having a distinct appearance and style, which put him three step ahead of all the other copies of Boba Fett (including Jango, every clone trooper, and almost every Mandalorian character) that have been riding his style and, honestly, cheapening it by sheer overexposure.

Edited by jaff on Jan 19th 2020 at 2:14:06 AM

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Even if Lucas actually did bring him back I'd still find it bullshit. I like Boba in TCW, but there's no need to be ridiculous and drag him out of the giant sand monster, which is exactly the kind of God-Mode Sue type of feat the franchise ascribes to Boba. Just tell his narrative with the whole 20 years you have, c'mon.

Like I once envisioned a space spaghetti western trilogy focused on Boba, but it'd be set during the waning days of the Empire, basically a midquel to the OT. Have a trilogy with a first movie taking on A Fistful of Dollars (Boba playing both the Empire and the Rebellion in a planet for his own ends, with a wisened Cad Bane as his rival), a second on For a Few Dollars More (Boba teaming up with Hondo Ohnaka to track down the psychotic criminal Durge, ending with a hook to his appearance in Empire) and then a gran finale set a few days before his appearance on Return of the Jedi taking on a blend of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and Once Upon a Time in the West with Boba as "The Good" (/Harmonica in Once), Cad Bane as "The Bad" (/Frank in Once) and Hondo Ohnaka as "The Ugly" (/Cheyenne in Once) focused on the waning days of the Empire, with the same themes of everyone being long on the tooth and the civilization of the New Republic about to recivilize that lawless territory. Plus, you can have Bane and Hondo go out the same way as Frank and Cheyenne of the narrative, which suits them.

I wasn't too fond of bring Maul back either, for that matter. My opinion on it only softened towards liking it because I really liked the arc they did for Maul and the fact they didn't make him this Memetic Badass of doom who conquered death but much moreso a tragic, pathetic figure who tries to cover up his own misery by harming others in what basically are temper tantrums.

Cad Bane is pretty vastly different from Boba in both personality and design. Boba is usually characterized as absolutely stoic, silent and playing his cards close to the chest. Bane is a lot more talkative, emotional and theatrical (I'd like to point out he once gunned down a man for his hat). It's pretty self-evident as a result of Boba being usually a take on Blondie while Bane is a Expy of Angel Eyes.

Edited by Gaon on Jan 19th 2020 at 2:18:31 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

>Every Mandalorian has Boba's helmet

There's at least a few in The Mandalorian that would disagree with you, specifically Paz Viszla.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.

@Gaon:Cad Bane is pretty vastly different from Boba in both personality and design.

I totally agree on the design part, that's a big part of why I like him.

Personality wise though, I am less sure. he does speak more than (the movies depiction of) Boba (who could speak plenty in later adaptations), But his dialogue always strike me as stoic and business-like, with pretty much the same stoic expression as, well, Lee Van Cleef. Sure, any facial expression at all beat an opaque visor (albeit,for all we know, Bobba might be snarling like crazy behind that thing...)

As for theatrical? I never really noticed, but that may be because, as a CW antagonist he stand right next to a cackling dark sorcerer, a pair of snarling horned full-body tatooed zabracks and a giant four-armed lasersword-swinging constantly-screaming alien cyborg. He and Animated Christopher Lee look positively Zen by comparison.

I'd say one of the big difference between the two, concept-wise, is that Boba tends to be a Lone Wolf and Bane much more of a team player, relying on acolytes and subordinates for most of his heists. But that might just be by necessity (Movie!Bobba catching a smuggler, while Cade usually go after the like of Jedi and senators).

Also, a Young Fett - Hondo - Cad Bane space spagetthi western sounds like awesome fanfic (or ttrpg) material.

@theLibrarian: I haven't watched the mandalorian yet, just saw a lot of the concept art, and most of it seemed hardly different from bobba apart from the color-swapping. Let me check Paz Viszla...

And, Ok, from afar it looked very much like the same dark blue helmet with sky blue cheeks, but if we look closer, it has a much more heavy jawline and his two antenna are much more present.

Still a bit closer to the original than Sabine, who was the one that may be realize how samey those armors have been in the first place, though.

Edited by jaff on Jan 19th 2020 at 3:42:20 AM

Robots shall be the second load of fertilizer dumped upon the human race -Clippy-

Considering how Aftermath described the Sarlacc being grievously wounded by the explosion of Jabba's Sail Barge and the Jawas happily dissecting its stomachs to scavenge for parts, I don't think Boba Fett escaping the Sarlacc would need to be as badass as you claim.

If anything, I like to think that Boba Fett, in an attempt to save face, would spin a tale of how he escaped the Sarlacc through his jetpack and weaponry when in reality, he was just unwittingly rescued by Jawas. Since nobody except the Jawas saw how Boba got out, it would easily spread across the galaxy as a legend of how badass Boba is, which would increase his rates as a bounty hunter. Assuming of course, Boba wishes to continue his career after his near-death experience.

Oh no, Cad Bane is a huge drama queen, more than any version of Boba (who does tend to be a man of few words in all of his versions, though he does speak more in the EU). There's a scene he negotiates with Jabba and he spends the entire scene basically bigging himself up (which makes Jabba crack up) and then he specifically gets a droid to translate what Jabba and the other Hutts are saying seemingly solely with the purpose of making a dramatic entrance.

Cad Bane has a huge ego and sense for the dramatic. In one of his first arcs he looks like he's about to turn down a proposal by Palps until Palps wounds his ego ("Perhaps your reputation has been exaggerated!") and Bane immediately changes his tune and accepts the job immediately, because he just has that high of an opinion on himself.

Another episode has him specifically look for a cool hat until he murders a guy for it.

Half of Bane's scenes have him with a half-cocked arrogant grin talking about himself and clearly enjoying the Hell out of what he's doing. When he fights Obi-Wan and Vos, he downright cackles with glee as the battle unfolds. He's having the time of his life. Boba is characterized by being curt, professional and stoic. Cad Bane is characterized by being dramatic, professional and highly sadistic. They're both professionals but characterized on complete opposite ends of the scale.

Like I said, Boba takes after Clint Eastwood's Blondie. Cad Bane takes after Lee Van Cleef's Angel Eyes, two very different characters united by being both ruthless bounty hunters with a sense of professionalism.

So really, for me, they fulfill the same archetype but are pretty much as far as possible in terms of character.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

Boy I'd kill to see what he looks like in live-action.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Wait, seriously?

I haven't read Aftermath. Earlier in this discussion, people were pointing to Aftermath as proof that Boba Fett escaped the Sarlacc. "Jawas are selling his armor. So they must have obtained it somehow."

But now you're telling me that Aftermath also has the Jawas dissecting the Sarlacc?

So.

Jawas cut open the Sarlacc's stomach for parts to sell, and as a result they are now selling Boba Fett's parts? What part of that implies the dude's survival?

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