The General Star Wars Thread

Today I learned that in order to make the Lars moisture farm look believable Lucas would actually spend the night and sleep in the sets to get a feel for how Luke and his family lived their lives there. Then come out the next day with ideas for more stuff to make the farm look lived in.

Another example of how GL is a master of editing, production, and worldbuilding. It's directing people where he fails.

On that topic, one question I had when watching TROS was why the Lars homestead hasn't become a tourist site or raided for parts.

I live in a town with a minor landmark (one of the California Missions) and all around it are cheap businesses advertising themselves as "the Mission Restaurant, the Mission Theater, the Mission Car Wash" etc.

Edited by Kylotrope on Feb 16th 2020 at 11:07:18 PM

Locals probably think the place is cursed. It was the site of horrible murders.

Now that I think about it, did Luke and Obiwan take the time to lay the remains of Owen and Beru Lars to rest?

Edited by M84 on Feb 17th 2020 at 8:41:53 PM

Plot Twist: There's actually a Luke Skywalker-themed amusement park not all that far from what's left of the Owen's Farm, that Rey either just visited or is intending to visit shortly after dealing with the sabers. It's so much fun that people rarely bother to actually look at the Owen's Farm themselves.

"Jedi-Land. You will never find a more wretched hive of fun and touristry."

The thing is that I would imagine Luke would gain a reputation akin to Carlos Hathcock, legendary in certain circles but hardly a Neil Armstrong-type national hero with parades held in his honor. Something always felt off when Rey started listing his accomplishments offhand, including the private confrontation with Vader and the Emperor. I thought it would have been far more interesting if the legend was WAY OFF, where everyone thinks he defeated Vader and the Emperor personally in pitched combat or something even more insane where he used the force to directly destroy the reactor to the Death Star.

There was a novel called Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor with that as a key plot point.

Edited by Beatman1 on Feb 17th 2020 at 8:30:13 AM

And it may be my second-favorite Star Wars novel of all time.

Apparently in the new canon Luke just kinda quickly separates from the Rebellion & does his own Jedi stuff so yeah his legend can be more crazy & less clear since he’s mostly lived a secluded life.

What’s the 1st?

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 17th 2020 at 5:38:52 AM

One cyber cookie says Rot S novelization.

Honestly, I'd find it more believable if nobody even knew about his confrontation with the Emperor. Like, the official story is that Vader and the Emperor died when Lando blew up the Death Star. "Luke Skywalker snuck inside the Death Star and technically killed the Emperor and Vader five minutes before Lando destroyed it" is the kind of thing that usually becomes a historical footnote.

That said, he should still be kinda famous as the guy that blew up the first Death Star.

Luke brought back Vader's body and gave it a funeral, right? I figured that meant he was pretty open about telling people about what Vader did in his last moments.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 17th 2020 at 6:01:51 AM

Yes, Luke should absolutely be open to telling people about Vader's redemption.

But I question how many people would care to listen. "The story of how Darth Vader saved us all" doesn't seem like a particularly attractive tale to a galaxy recovering from decades of authoritarianism, especially when they already have the story of Lando and the Rebels bringing down the Death Star.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 17th 2020 at 7:02:19 AM

Except it was clearly a private ceremony. He was the only person there.

It was? Didn't know that, I last watched the entire movie when I was 7.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 17th 2020 at 6:45:48 AM

I would just spin it as "Lando and Wedge blew the station up, Luke made sure the Sith fuckers didn't get off it alive." That he managed to depose Sheev with time enough to escape DSII before it went kablam is just icing on the cake as far as the rebellion is concerned. They won the battle and had a bitchin' full-fledged space wizard make sure no one was left to make a third one.

But everything changed when Darth Isney attacked.

Yeah, Luke evacuated with Anakin's corpse, landed somewhere on Endor and gave him a funeral pyre before going to join the celebration.

Edited by TheAirman on Feb 17th 2020 at 8:18:25 AM

Yeah, the funeral pyre was something personal to Luke. He burns the armor, and it's later that he joins Leia and Han in the Ewok's celebration.

I wonder what sort of angle that would add to ST Luke's resentment of his legend if said legend was to known to the galaxy at large as: "Jedi God Luke came to the Death Star, kicked Vader's butt, kicked the Emperor's butt, and exited heroically while the Death Star exploded behind him. Not looking at the explosion, of course."

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Feb 17th 2020 at 6:46:37 AM

Now I'm thinking it would be interesting if Rey had other perceptions of what happened, Luke tells her the truth of Vader's redemption and that gives her the idea to try and redeem Kylo. One problem with TLJ (and the sequels in general) is that they excuse plot developments as "the force says so" rather than letting the characters make their own choices. In this case, have Luke accidentally put the idea in her head and have him Face Palm when she starts planning it out. As it stands, it feels like she is Wrong Genre Savvy because she watched a Star Wars movie rather than lived experiences.

• Luke: Listen to me, I'm telling you that trying to redeem Kylo Ren is a mistake.
• Rey: Oh! You're giving me the talk that your mentor gave you about redeeming your father, in order to reinforce my decision as the right one. Thank you so much.
• Luke: What?! No! I'm telling you not to do this.
• Rey: And by telling me not to do this, you're actually telling me that I should go out there and prove you wrong?
• Luke: Oh, for f*ck's sake.

For what it's worth, I'd argue the above actually isn't too different from what actually happened. Rey is initially sort of Wrong Genre Savvy about Kylo in TLJ, but by TROS Kylo comes around.

Remember this is the no spoiler thread.

Does anyone even enforce that anymore.

I wouldnt mind just converting this to a general star wars discussion thread at this point since we use it as basically that as off now.