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Rise of Skywalker Final Trailer:
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And also here's a trailer for The Mandalorian:
Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 31st 2024 at 8:23:29 PM
And whereas the Death Star had to destroy each planet individually, Starkiller could destroy an entire system at once, from across the galaxy.
If anything the First Order did what the Empire couldn't, with the destruction of the Hosnian system they cowed the galaxy into submission except for the Resistance, whereas the Empire destroying Alderaan actually caused a lot of the galaxy to go from subtly supporting the Rebels into openly revolting.
Edited by theLibrarian on Nov 30th 2019 at 4:38:42 AM
The Death Star's one of those things people tended to claim was a plot hole, but was actually fairly well explained in-movie, though admittedly only if you're paying good attention. The only real flaw I can see (other than the reactor core) is that they didn't put a grate over the exhaust port, though I could see an argument that they didn't think they needed to (it was an incredibly improbably shot that killed the Death Star).
Actually, that's something people tend to forget is that the mission to destroy the Death Star would qualify as one of those things you'd tend to label as "virtually impossible" and was probably only attempted out of desperation.
Leviticus 19:34The Death Star is also a demonstration of that ancient miscalculation that has toppled tyrants both real and fictional since probably the beginning of time: it didn't terrify the people. It pissed them off.
One of my bigger disappointments in the new canon (spoken as someone who likes most of it) is that Starkiller did apparently have the former effect despite meeting the same fate as the Death Star, lending the impression that the people of the Galaxy for some reason turned into Marvel civilians within a generation.
The extremely narrow scope and short time frame of the sequel movies could work in their advantage for that in the future, however. Since the movies take place in the heat of the moment and don’t address the rest of the galaxy in anything it the most indirect of the terms, they could easily just soft retcon it that the galaxy didn’t immediately roll over for the First Order, that the Republic didn’t completely fold, that at that moment the Rrsistance had no allies but that doesn’t mean people weren’t still out there fighting, etc, and recover things through side stories.
In fact, they’re already doing it to an extent.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 30th 2019 at 5:32:08 AM
I haven't watched season 2 of Resistance yet, but they're sort of doing that there, right?
Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.The idea people get piss off is parcially truth, people get upset but if they cant do anything against the tyrants that morphed quickly into submission, have resistance havent destroyed the death star it would submit the rest of the galaxy eventually.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"We saw the reactions the Alliance had when they learned of the Death Star's existence and assumed they had no chance. There was almost an immediate fracturing over what to do, and it looked like they weren't going to do anything. Then Rogue One made the decision for them and everybody jumped in once the die was cast.
Had that last part not happened, the Alliance might have fractured between those who wanted more open rebellion, Death Star or no Death Star, and those who wanted to continue the way they had been doing things up till then. God only knows what would have happened then, but I don't think the Death Star was every going to be the absolute dominator the way the Empire wanted it to be.
There was always going to be continued rebellion. What the Battle of Yavin did though was drastically increase its scope and centralization.
I heard in the new Disney continuity that the Emperor was displeased that Tarkin destroyed Alderaan. Not because it was immoral (we're talking about a guy who commissioned the planet destroyer) but because it was stupid action that make the Empire's job more difficult. I don't know what source says that's the case, can anyone help me?
The Emperor says something like that to Vader in the comics, though not specifically about Alderaan (he says it about Vader's You Have Failed Me habit and general bloodthirstiness, though his reasoning could potentially apply to Alderaan it's not brought up there iirc). The comics tend to portray Palpatine as... surprisingly pragmatic.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 1st 2019 at 11:02:47 AM
After watching through all the Disneyworld
Stars of
the Sagas
vids (the show's discontinued now, but they evidently did one every year between 2008-2015), I really want to make a page for the troopers in the comedy show, but since they're very obviously non-canon I wouldn't know where to put it.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 1st 2019 at 12:14:58 PM
It wasn't destroyed in retaliation though — Leia had already gotten the plans to the Death Star before it blew up Alderaan in the first place. They wanted to blow it up because...well, it's called the Death Star. It's clearly a superweapon meant for intimidation and fear and that's not good for the Rebellion.
I remember reading about how a lot of kids thought Alderaan was Earth. XD;
Edited by lalalei2001 on Dec 1st 2019 at 4:24:39 AM
The Protomen enhanced my life.Arguably, close to the reverse, in fact: The Rebels wanted the Death Star blown up anyways, and were planning to destroy it long before Alderaan was massacred. The Empire was technically playing "defense" during a New Hope (it was the heroes with the scheme that the villains were trying to stop). The destruction of Alderaan was technically in response to the Rebels trying to come up with a plan to blow their Death Star up.
Leviticus 19:34

The Starkiller wasn't weaker than the Death Star. If anything, it was stronger, considering a full starfighter attack did nothing to it from the outside and it had to be sabotaged from the inside.