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Hello and welcome! This here thread is a spoiler-free zone!

Things that are acceptable here:

  • Trailers and trailer speculation
  • Discussion of Star Wars movies and shows, and what we would like to see/not like to see in them.
  • Discussion about anything and everything Star Wars, just...no spoilers.

Things that are not-acceptable here:

  • Spoilers! No talking about the leaks!
  • Being mean! If you disagree with someone's opinion, try not to come across as mean or rude.

And here. we. go.

    Original text of OP 
Hello and welcome! This here thread is a spoiler-free zone! Because I didn't want to be tempted to read anymore spoilers for Rise of Skywalker!

Things that are acceptable here:

  • Trailers and trailer speculation
  • Discussion of the Star Wars movies and what we would like to see/not like to see in them.
  • Discussion about anything and everything Star Wars, just...no spoilers.

Things that are not-acceptable here:

  • Spoilers! No talking about the leaks!
  • Being mean! If you disagree with someone's opinion, try not to come across as mean or rude.

And here. we. go.

Rise of Skywalker Final Trailer:

Mr. Sunday's Ten Easy To Miss Details in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Final Trailer Breakdown):

This cool mashup of Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker and Avengers: Endgame trailers:

And also here's a trailer for The Mandalorian:

Edited by Mrph1 on Aug 31st 2024 at 8:23:29 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#351: Nov 30th 2019 at 2:33:15 PM

The Starkiller wasn't weaker than the Death Star. If anything, it was stronger, considering a full starfighter attack did nothing to it from the outside and it had to be sabotaged from the inside.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#352: Nov 30th 2019 at 2:35:46 PM

And whereas the Death Star had to destroy each planet individually, Starkiller could destroy an entire system at once, from across the galaxy.

If anything the First Order did what the Empire couldn't, with the destruction of the Hosnian system they cowed the galaxy into submission except for the Resistance, whereas the Empire destroying Alderaan actually caused a lot of the galaxy to go from subtly supporting the Rebels into openly revolting.

Edited by theLibrarian on Nov 30th 2019 at 4:38:42 AM

Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#353: Nov 30th 2019 at 2:48:02 PM

The Death Star's one of those things people tended to claim was a plot hole, but was actually fairly well explained in-movie, though admittedly only if you're paying good attention. The only real flaw I can see (other than the reactor core) is that they didn't put a grate over the exhaust port, though I could see an argument that they didn't think they needed to (it was an incredibly improbably shot that killed the Death Star).

Actually, that's something people tend to forget is that the mission to destroy the Death Star would qualify as one of those things you'd tend to label as "virtually impossible" and was probably only attempted out of desperation.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#354: Nov 30th 2019 at 2:53:57 PM

Would a grate have done anything? There was already a ray shield over the port. A grate probably would've just been shot off, or interfered with the ray shield, or the proton torpedo would plow through it.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 30th 2019 at 2:56:14 AM

Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#355: Nov 30th 2019 at 3:06:52 PM

A grate would have lowered the value though. The Empire had to think about resale!

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#356: Nov 30th 2019 at 5:02:53 PM

The Death Star is also a demonstration of that ancient miscalculation that has toppled tyrants both real and fictional since probably the beginning of time: it didn't terrify the people. It pissed them off.

One of my bigger disappointments in the new canon (spoken as someone who likes most of it) is that Starkiller did apparently have the former effect despite meeting the same fate as the Death Star, lending the impression that the people of the Galaxy for some reason turned into Marvel civilians within a generation.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#357: Nov 30th 2019 at 5:05:55 PM

We actually don't know what effect the Starkiller had, as we only saw the immediate aftermath. The book Rise of the Resistance shows the characters going around and rebuilding the Resistance, however.

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#358: Nov 30th 2019 at 5:09:06 PM

Man, the new time scale is messed up. Too much too fast.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#359: Nov 30th 2019 at 5:10:42 PM

A bit of a consequence of TLJ being an immediate sequel to TFA.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#360: Nov 30th 2019 at 5:20:02 PM

The extremely narrow scope and short time frame of the sequel movies could work in their advantage for that in the future, however. Since the movies take place in the heat of the moment and don’t address the rest of the galaxy in anything it the most indirect of the terms, they could easily just soft retcon it that the galaxy didn’t immediately roll over for the First Order, that the Republic didn’t completely fold, that at that moment the Rrsistance had no allies but that doesn’t mean people weren’t still out there fighting, etc, and recover things through side stories.

In fact, they’re already doing it to an extent.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Nov 30th 2019 at 5:32:08 AM

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#361: Nov 30th 2019 at 5:55:40 PM

I haven't watched season 2 of Resistance yet, but they're sort of doing that there, right?

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#362: Nov 30th 2019 at 6:51:13 PM

The idea people get piss off is parcially truth, people get upset but if they cant do anything against the tyrants that morphed quickly into submission, have resistance havent destroyed the death star it would submit the rest of the galaxy eventually.

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Parable Since: Aug, 2009
#363: Nov 30th 2019 at 7:57:55 PM

We saw the reactions the Alliance had when they learned of the Death Star's existence and assumed they had no chance. There was almost an immediate fracturing over what to do, and it looked like they weren't going to do anything. Then Rogue One made the decision for them and everybody jumped in once the die was cast.

Had that last part not happened, the Alliance might have fractured between those who wanted more open rebellion, Death Star or no Death Star, and those who wanted to continue the way they had been doing things up till then. God only knows what would have happened then, but I don't think the Death Star was every going to be the absolute dominator the way the Empire wanted it to be.

There was always going to be continued rebellion. What the Battle of Yavin did though was drastically increase its scope and centralization.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#364: Dec 1st 2019 at 6:04:28 AM

Yeah. Like Poe said in The Last Jedi, the Resistance is only the spark. It's up to the rest of the galaxy for that spark to catch and burst into action.

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#365: Dec 1st 2019 at 10:45:01 AM

I heard in the new Disney continuity that the Emperor was displeased that Tarkin destroyed Alderaan. Not because it was immoral (we're talking about a guy who commissioned the planet destroyer) but because it was stupid action that make the Empire's job more difficult. I don't know what source says that's the case, can anyone help me?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#366: Dec 1st 2019 at 11:00:43 AM

The Emperor says something like that to Vader in the comics, though not specifically about Alderaan (he says it about Vader's You Have Failed Me habit and general bloodthirstiness, though his reasoning could potentially apply to Alderaan it's not brought up there iirc). The comics tend to portray Palpatine as... surprisingly pragmatic.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 1st 2019 at 11:02:47 AM

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#367: Dec 1st 2019 at 11:35:11 AM

He did manage to make a long plan to nearly end the Jedi and get everyone to basically hand the throne to him, so he must be able to not be murdery every now and then.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#368: Dec 1st 2019 at 12:11:49 PM

After watching through all the Disneyworld Stars of the Sagas vids (the show's discontinued now, but they evidently did one every year between 2008-2015), I really want to make a page for the troopers in the comedy show, but since they're very obviously non-canon I wouldn't know where to put it.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Dec 1st 2019 at 12:14:58 PM

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#369: Dec 1st 2019 at 12:15:54 PM

Like a lot of things, botching an agreed upon plan is worse than going off a plan and succeeding. The destruction of Alderaan was contingent on the Death Star surviving to terrorize the galaxy. It being destroyed in retaliation was the ultimate morale booster for the Rebel cause.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#370: Dec 1st 2019 at 4:04:51 PM

It wasn't destroyed in retaliation though — Leia had already gotten the plans to the Death Star before it blew up Alderaan in the first place. They wanted to blow it up because...well, it's called the Death Star. It's clearly a superweapon meant for intimidation and fear and that's not good for the Rebellion.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#371: Dec 1st 2019 at 4:19:19 PM

I remember reading about how a lot of kids thought Alderaan was Earth. XD;

Edited by lalalei2001 on Dec 1st 2019 at 4:24:39 AM

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Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#372: Dec 1st 2019 at 4:20:29 PM

Arguably, close to the reverse, in fact: The Rebels wanted the Death Star blown up anyways, and were planning to destroy it long before Alderaan was massacred. The Empire was technically playing "defense" during a New Hope (it was the heroes with the scheme that the villains were trying to stop). The destruction of Alderaan was technically in response to the Rebels trying to come up with a plan to blow their Death Star up.

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#373: Dec 1st 2019 at 4:21:24 PM

I kept getting Alderaan and Tatooine mixed up for years

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#374: Dec 1st 2019 at 4:23:26 PM

I kept mixing up Tatooine and Dantooine.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#375: Dec 1st 2019 at 5:48:48 PM

-tooine is like the planet equivalent of -ville.


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