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Sep 16th 2020 at 10:04:32 AM

I would like to add The Bard's Tale IV to the Needs Wiki Magic Love list; it feels like edit content had virtually stopped right before the game released, and hence its page is very lacking.

Edited by Albert3105 on Sep 16th 2020 at 1:09:34 PM

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Sep 18th 2020 at 1:07:10 AM

[up] But the page is basically fine. It has a decent description and the example count is well above 10. It has several wicks, too, though it looks mostly like indexes. So it only needs Cross Wicking. I don't think it's necessary to put the work page there. On the other hand, it's not fordbidden and adding to that page doesn't really require consensus.

Why don't you update the page yourself? You seem to know the work and you are a troper. Ideal combination. :-)

Sep 18th 2020 at 5:34:47 AM

I do not, actually! I just got there from Sequel Gap.

Kappaclystica 『  』 from The 'hood (of a pasty upper-middle class suburb)
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Sep 18th 2020 at 9:18:01 PM

Dream has the Needs Wiki Magic Love tag despite being well over 10 examples. I think it can be removed.

Edited by Kappaclystica on Sep 18th 2020 at 9:18:16 AM

Berrenta Remakes on the way from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Remakes on the way
Sep 21st 2020 at 7:31:57 PM

[up][up] Was able to verify that the count exceeded 10, so I removed it from the index.

[up] According to NWML: Meta needs "Needs everything: examples, quotes, wicks, images, better descriptions, etc." Question now is if any of these are needed.

Edited by Berrenta on Sep 21st 2020 at 9:34:37 AM

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A
There is no Planet B
Sep 22nd 2020 at 10:40:20 AM

According to NWML: Meta needs "Needs everything: examples, quotes, wicks, images, better descriptions, etc." Question now is if any of these are needed.

Yeah. Things like a top-page quote, a quotes subpage, a top page image, an image links subpage, images on character sheets etc. are not required. Of course these are all nice to have because the page simply looks better, but if only one editor thinks it should all be there, they should be the one to do the work.

I'm also kinda stunned by the number of pages on the 'needs wiki magic love' list that apparently need an entry pimp. I know it's just this wiki's lingo for a dedicated, enthusiastic editor, but again... if you're willing to be an entry pimp for your beloved work, then cool, we'd probably love it, but it's weird to ask others to do it for any random page. Lots of those articles listed there are stubs or almost stubs anyway.

Edited by XFllo on Sep 22nd 2020 at 11:24:24 AM

Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Sep 22nd 2020 at 8:32:23 PM

I did some cross-wicking on Fanfic.Aurora Falls, asked the cross-wicking thread if twenty-three wicks is enough, and asked the zero context cleanup thread for a second opinion about some iffy examples. Depending on what answers I get, I might be able to move the page off of "Needs Wiki Magic Love" and onto one of the sub-pages.

If not for this anchor I'd be dancing between the stars. At least I can try to write better vampire stories than Twilight.
naturalironist from The Information Superhighway Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Sep 24th 2020 at 12:32:36 PM

23 wicks seems fine for a lesser-known works page.

"It's just a show; I should really just relax"
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Nov 16th 2020 at 8:37:30 AM

I began a TRS thread on moving these pages to the Administrivia/ namespace. Well, the ones that hadn't been moved over already.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Dec 16th 2020 at 12:24:13 PM

Website.Critical Hit Point - From 2013, was cleaning up Review's wicks. Can we cut this barely functional page?

Help with possible disambig and redirect issues!
jandn2014 Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot from somewhere in Connecticut Relationship Status: Hiding
Hangs around Image Pickiní a lot
Dec 16th 2020 at 12:26:55 PM

[up] Absolutely.

Edited by jandn2014 on Dec 16th 2020 at 3:27:07 PM

there's nobody here
Serac Spout Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Spout
Dec 16th 2020 at 12:52:16 PM

Yeah, the website link doesn't even work anymore, and it's a classic stub page.

Berrenta Remakes on the way from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Remakes on the way
Mar 3rd 2021 at 7:43:05 PM

Is Echelon Conspiracy salvageable? There is only one example with sufficient context and no spoiler tags. All other examples are ZCE or had context spoiler tagged.

crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Mar 3rd 2021 at 7:45:25 PM

If ~jormis29 can update it to comply with wiki standards, then they should get the chance. Otherwise, I'd prefer they cutlisted it.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Mar 5th 2021 at 7:52:06 AM

~Graf von Tirol, where did you get consensus/permission to completely change the sorting method on Needs Wiki Magic Love?

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Mar 5th 2021 at 10:31:08 AM

I have to admit I did it on my own. I won't object to the order being changed back if it comes to this, but much like some other subsections that handle work pages (eg Works Needing Tropes, Pages Needing Example Context) it would make sense to sort by medium as a reference, then alphabetize.

I did bring it up in the Discussion, though taking it here would've been more ideal in hindsight if more people view here than Discussions it seems.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Mar 5th 2021 at 11:11:59 AM

Walking across the sitting room, I turn the television off. Sitting beside you, I look into your eyes.
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Mar 6th 2021 at 12:38:38 PM

I do like the idea of separating the tropes/indexes from the other pages. I'm not certain about mixing UsefulNotes/ into the media categories. What about the following?

  1. Tropes/indexes
  2. Useful Notes
  3. Media Categories
  4. Subpages

Note; subpages generally fall under one of the other projects, but people have been adding to this project in a fairly lazy fashion, so for the purpose of category/organization, I'm assuming they're correct.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Mar 6th 2021 at 1:12:49 PM

Sounds like a good order to work with.

[down] Precisely my thinking.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Mar 7th 2021 at 12:33:41 PM

Walking across the sitting room, I turn the television off. Sitting beside you, I look into your eyes.
Piterpicher from Poland, for real Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
Mar 6th 2021 at 1:33:22 PM

I'd rather have folders for work namespaces, i.e. how it's now. Certain people specialise in different kinds of works, so such sorting can make find it easier.

Berrenta Remakes on the way from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Remakes on the way
Mar 6th 2021 at 9:12:23 PM

[up] Yeah, that kind of sorting can work.

The order in [up][up][up] is also workable.

Mar 7th 2021 at 1:40:02 PM

May I proceed with the sorting or is more input needed?

Walking across the sitting room, I turn the television off. Sitting beside you, I look into your eyes.
crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
Could we just... not have Death anymore?
Mar 7th 2021 at 3:23:04 PM

I think the most involved editors have had their say. I don't see a reason to delay this merely for Rule of Three policy. [tup]

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Mar 8th 2021 at 2:14:43 AM

The sorting has now been completed. And boy the Video Game folder alone is a doozy.

Also put Creators/Actors between tropes and Useful Notes, since it feels awkward lumping creators in alongside the works.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on Mar 8th 2021 at 2:15:48 AM

Walking across the sitting room, I turn the television off. Sitting beside you, I look into your eyes.
Berrenta Remakes on the way from Texas Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
Remakes on the way
Mar 25th 2021 at 9:51:09 AM

Wick-wise, the cleaning is concluded. However, I caught a few trying to add NWML onto pages. How are we combatting this?

Edited by Berrenta on Mar 25th 2021 at 11:51:19 AM


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