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Continuing from a Trope Repair Shop thread, Critical Research Failure is prone to misuse. Given how many entries we have for the trope, on-page and off-page, as well as consensus reached in the TRS thread, entries should be sure that they fit the following criteria.
In-Universe examples are less problematic and thus do not need as much attention.
If you feel tempted to add a Justifying Edit explaining how the authors would not have known better, just delete the example.
Please ask if you have any questions. Answers may be posted here for reference.
Edited by Brainulator9 on Oct 10th 2019 at 1:32:49 PM
Do any of the Emoji Movie examples count?
Since it’s a YMMV trope, it should probably be removed from non-YMMV pages.
Some of them do feel a bit nitpicky
Yeah, the "trolls are represented as malware" seems to be the only real valid example to me. I haven't seen the movie, but that seems like a pretty bad screw-up on the filmmakers part.
From YMMV.Steven Universe S 3 E 20 Bismuth:
I was kinda surprised when I first saw this, because I've used these exact arguments before. But I'm not sure if Critical Research Failure is the best way to describe it. I think one of the Artistic License tropes might be better, but I'm not sure which one would work.
Reads to me more like Awesome, yet Impractical.
Rule of thumb: If a Critical Research Failure entry is several sentences long, it's probably misuse. Ideally, errors covered by examples shouldn't need to be explained (at least not with an essay) because of how obvious they are.
As far as Clear, Concise, Witty is concerned, I think Concise might be especially important here, because descriptions of errors regarding basic facts would probably be clear by default.
Edit: Also, the fifth example in Someoneman's post has an error of its own. Emoji are stored as characters in fonts (which aren't even exclusive to phones; my PC supports them just fine), and are thus are treated as text instead of images (as in, not stored as PNG, GIF, etc. files). Some fonts, such as Google's Noto fonts (at least some of which have emoji support), explicitly allow modification, so their appearances can be changed (and even without such a license, users can just choose to use a different font, as opposed to how emoticons look the same for everyone, eyesight problems notwithstanding). I think whoever wrote that example confused emoji with emoticons.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 15th 2019 at 7:02:48 AM
Can I ask about the Franklin example I added recently?
Firstly, I know, I should take out the potshot towards the writers. Secondly, and more importantly, I know this entry meets the first two criteria but what about the third? Was that intentional or not? How are we supposed to tell if they did it on purpose or not?
Edited by PlasmaPower on Oct 17th 2019 at 5:40:33 AM
I'm sorry to just come here.
Just wanted to talk about the Franklin example, because intention might be the hardest thing to actually check.
I don't know the movie, but seems like the creators just wanted to make a standard pregnancy story, but since the main characters were reptiles, they had to either ignore that, or write around an egg, in which they chose the former.
I would give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was intentional, in my opinion.
My question is this: since Franklin is targeted for preschool audiences, would said preschoolers know that turtles don't get pregnant like mammals do?
I think it's just Artistic License – Biology, specially an inverse of Whale Egg.
Did you know that turtles also don't walk on two legs or speak English? That seems like pretty common knowledge to me. How did the writers miss that one? /s
Some examples from cut pages were moved to this sandbox. Are any valid examples?
I'm confused about this example on the aforementioned sandbox.
Where does he get mentioned? The second line of the song, last time I checked, is "had a very shiny nose".
I assume that's the intro to the song.
Edited by chasemaddigan on Nov 14th 2019 at 6:59:33 AM
From YMMV.The Simpsons S 19 E 11 That90s Show
What is the majority of the audience of The Simpsons made of? Does this even fit considering how much of the audience knows of the history of Sonic the Hedgehog? And I was probably for a one-off gag too.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Nov 16th 2019 at 7:05:50 AM
Cut it, seems more Cowboy BeBop at His Computer's cup of tea.
From YMMV.Schaffrillas Productions
Move to CBAHC.
This was added to King of the Hill:
There are multiple very long entries on YMMV.King Of The Hill, and a lot of them are pretty bad. Let's look at them all:
I'm in favor of cutting everything but the Groin Attack entry, but I'm open to discussion.
Edited by HighCrate on Dec 10th 2019 at 7:35:38 AM
Your analysis is correct. Delete all but the Groin Attack example.
Edited by Brainulator9 on Dec 10th 2019 at 3:22:38 PM
From YMMV.Star Trek Deep Space Nine S 07 E 11 Prodigal Daughter
I think when most people use the term, they aren't using the literal meaning, so this example seems a bit pedantic.
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