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Kirby0189 Kirby is shaped like a friend from America Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#1: Oct 9th 2019 at 12:31:17 PM

I Liked It Better When It Sucked is supposed to be about works that were considered So Bad, It's Good getting changed and people considering the new one less enjoyable because it is still bad, but not laughably so. People seem to forget that it only applies for when people liked the original as So Bad, It's Good and talk about people preferring works with lower production values for unironic merit. I went and removed a bunch of misuse and bolded the section clarifying that the original must be So Bad, It's Good a few days ago with approval from Ask The Tropers, but this morning two new misuses got added, one of which is for a series that I removed misuse for (albeit a completely different entry, so it seems more like the person added it without knowing it had been deleted before rather than trying to add back something they felt had wrongly been cut). The page quote is also related to one of the misuses I cut, but that's not as important right now. In hindsight I probably should have come here first to begin with but anyway, I think this trope could use some repair.

Wick Check (at least for YMMV pages because I assume that's what I'm supposed to be searching through):

So... yea. It seems like quite a lot of people have reinterpreted this trope as being an alternative to They Changed It, Now It Sucks! and Nostalgia Filter for works that once had lower production values and forget the important So Bad, It's Good aspect.

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#2: Feb 6th 2020 at 8:18:45 AM

Sorry for the wait, ~Kirby0189

Wick check looks alright; since it's a YMMV trope, checking YMMV pages is a smart move. Opening for discussion.

Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald from US Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#3: Feb 6th 2020 at 9:07:25 AM

In favor of a rename to aid clarity.

BTW, what you saw in the Titanic example is what was left after I cleaned it up.

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#4: Feb 6th 2020 at 11:44:14 AM

Yeah, I think a rename would be good, but I can't think of any ideas at the moment.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 6th 2020 at 1:47:00 PM

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Florien The They who said it from statistically, slightly right behind you. Since: Aug, 2019
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#5: Feb 6th 2020 at 2:41:57 PM

Maybe rename it something like "The Un-Improvement" or something like that but more clever?

Edited by Florien on Feb 6th 2020 at 2:43:01 AM

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#6: Feb 6th 2020 at 2:42:30 PM
Florien The They who said it from statistically, slightly right behind you. Since: Aug, 2019
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#7: Feb 6th 2020 at 2:43:18 PM

Good point. [up]

GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#8: Feb 6th 2020 at 3:16:02 PM

Neglected to mention this (despite going through Music.David Bowie's ZCEs recently), but the wick on YMMV.Never Let Me Down appears to be correct. The posthumous remix album from 2018 was intended to improve what was considered one of Bowie's worst albums, and it's saying people thought the original version was So Bad, It's Good.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 6th 2020 at 5:17:11 AM

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Kirby0189 Kirby is shaped like a friend from America Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#9: Feb 6th 2020 at 3:36:19 PM

Just a random rename idea to throw out there "It Was Better When We Could Mock It"

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WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#11: Feb 6th 2020 at 3:52:05 PM

[up]&[up][up]I like those better. I think both would be good to put on a crowner once the thread gets to that stage.

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Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#13: Feb 7th 2020 at 11:27:28 AM

[up][tup]

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Florien The They who said it from statistically, slightly right behind you. Since: Aug, 2019
Kirby0189 Kirby is shaped like a friend from America Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Kirby is shaped like a friend
#16: Feb 7th 2020 at 5:01:53 PM

[up]

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#17: Feb 7th 2020 at 5:06:55 PM

Wait. Snark Bait is something people watch just to make fun of it. Doesn't mean they think it's So Bad, It's Good.

Kirby0189 Kirby is shaped like a friend from America Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#18: Feb 8th 2020 at 3:20:29 AM

[up] So should we go with the "It Was Better When We Could Mock It" idea I suggested earlier?

EDIT: Ok wait, I just realized that it has the same problem. How about "It Was Better When The Bad Was Good"?

Edited by Kirby0189 on Feb 8th 2020 at 6:22:43 AM

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#19: Feb 8th 2020 at 10:53:07 AM

Or Better When It Was "So Bad, It's Good"?

iwantedtoaddsomething Since: Feb, 2015
#20: Feb 8th 2020 at 11:05:24 AM

So Bad, It's Good and Snark Bait are forms of Bile Fascination, so maybe something along the lines of "Better When It Was Bile"?

Kirby0189 Kirby is shaped like a friend from America Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#21: Feb 8th 2020 at 11:12:05 AM

[up] Works for me.

EDIT: Wait, we might want to adjust it to get the "originally So Bad, It's Good" part across. We could just add one word or something.

Edited by Kirby0189 on Feb 8th 2020 at 2:16:24 PM

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GastonRabbit C'est la vie. (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
C'est la vie. (he/him)
#22: Feb 8th 2020 at 2:42:16 PM

Better When It Was So Bad Its Good might work. I considered suggesting I Liked It Better When It Was So Bad Its Good, but reconsidered when I realized it failed the second and third points of Clear, Concise, Witty. Cutting out a few words improves it.

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#23: Feb 8th 2020 at 6:15:45 PM

Better When It Was So Bad Its Good sounds good since it gets the meaning across better.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (8,356/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
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#24: Feb 8th 2020 at 6:17:28 PM

It's very clunky, though.

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Florien The They who said it from statistically, slightly right behind you. Since: Aug, 2019
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#25: Feb 8th 2020 at 6:23:07 PM

I like So Bad it was Better as an alternative. [up] [tup]

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