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Edited by nombretomado on Sep 26th 2019 at 5:19:24 AM
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Hoping?
I just stated a conclusion based on what we have seen from him so far and the most likely outcome without anyone interfering into it. (unless he's planning to use his sons as "donors" to prolong his life but I don't even want to imagine Trump being that morbid...)
And "hoping"?
No.
That would indicate that the power of "thoughts and prayers" actually works in this reality.
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Voluntary work, you said?
Like what?
(and what would one do if attacked by drunk MAGAS while doing it?)
Edited by TitanJump on Feb 2nd 2020 at 7:06:23 PM
Volunteer for a democratic candidate’s campaign. Your chance of being attacked is basically zero, but if you’re really worried for some crazy reason you can always text or phone bank from the safety of your own house.
Also, wishing death on people for whatever reason is against forum rules.
Edited by archonspeaks on Feb 2nd 2020 at 10:27:50 AM
They should have sent a poet.![]()
Hey! I didn't started it!
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That aside.
now when we know that impeachment has lost its power as a deterrent in the White House, thanks to the leniency of the GOP, and only adds and asterisk to the impeached one's name without further consequences, what exactly is there left to reel Trump as President back in anymore or from committing further illegal and unlawful acts as the year advances?
How has it lost its power? It's arguably more effective than it ever was before because its done an enormous amount of damage to Trump's credibility, position, and power.
There was never a chance to remove Trump but it has destroyed his reputation.
Edited by CharlesPhipps on Feb 2nd 2020 at 11:16:27 AM
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.![]()
Think of it from this angle.
Trump feared impeachment and tried to avoid it at all costs in order to "keep his image clean"
He failed.
Now he is stained and impeached forever.
However, now when his reputation has been stained and he has suffered what he tried to avoid.
What exactly is stopping him from "ripping off all brakes" and go full-steam ahead on his crazy train when he (in his mind) has already suffered the worst that could have happened to him?
He still got to end of his year with his first term.
And now his leash has snapped in two...
Edited by TitanJump on Feb 2nd 2020 at 8:17:43 PM
Probably because nothing prevents the Democrats from going after his enablers now and continuing the news cycle to undermine him. Trump can't NOT focus on attacks on himself because of his ego.
I say keep the pressure up.
If not impeachment 2.0, Electric Boogaloo then going after his enablers and cronies.
Investigation after investigation.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.(Chuckles)
You know, some days, I just wonder if Donald Trump is actually a rare case of a Real Life Mad Oracle
Everything he has projected upon and predicted about others have come true...when applied to himself.
Including the "NOTHING BUT INVESTIGATIONS" claim he made about Clinton.
The same things that have been stopping him for the past 4 years? The other parts of the government?
People act like Trump could just suddenly declare himself king one day and it would actually work. Democrats have a lot of power in Congress and even the bureaucracy he runs has been resisting him since basically day one.
Edited by archonspeaks on Feb 2nd 2020 at 11:36:41 AM
They should have sent a poet.Really, Trump is his own worst enemy.
He can't even start a war properly.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.Lest anyone forget, he's a coward whose sabre-rattling is always hot air with no actual intention to start a war, and is a colossal idiot who refuses to acknowledge his ignorance. If he ever starts a war, it will almost certainly be on pure accident.
Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.I don’t think you can really ascribe any particular motivation to something like that. I doubt he intended to start a war. In fact, I doubt he intended to do anything. He picked an option off a list presented to him that he thought sounded the coolest and toughest in that moment.
The Iranians have a basic self-preservation instinct and decided one guy wasn’t worth being bombed flat over.
Edited by archonspeaks on Feb 2nd 2020 at 3:00:29 AM
They should have sent a poet.
That "polls are worthless"? (The majority of the american population wanted witnesses to the impeachment trial in the senate, the GOP backhanded them in response and denied all of that. Showing that majority opinion carries little weight as a poll anymore.)
All that matter is the final vote in November.
Edited by TitanJump on Feb 2nd 2020 at 6:29:44 PM
Currently watching the live broadcast today.
The democrats are on point, as usual, passionate, professional and prepared with the truth.
Break
Then comes the GOP...and Ken Starr.
And oh boy... (I'm not a violent person, I don't encourage violent acts against others easily or when pushed to the edge) but Ken Starr's "argument"(Aka "bold-faced lies" that's wrong in every single way)
...it's enough to make my blood boil in pure, undiluted, rage against him, and the side of the GOP.

I don't think the GOP's opinion of Trump will help. 75% of Americans wanted witnesses.
I also believe impeachment severely killed a lot of Trump's enthusiastic base.
His godhood status has been removed among them if Kentucky is any indication.
Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.