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Edited by nombretomado on Sep 26th 2019 at 5:19:24 AM
Listened to more some of it on the radio. One of the lawyers argued that the narrative that the intent of Trump's phone call being personal gain made no sense because so many people were on the call with him. Allegedly, many of them were in on it (and Bolton confirmed as such). So what's your point?
Edited by speedyboris on Jan 27th 2020 at 6:31:39 AM
Schumer and Angus King are cautiously optimistic about getting witnesses now, based on what Republican senators have been doing/saying in their presence.
And the Republicans are ticked off at Trump because the White House had Bolton's manuscript since December and never bothered to tell the rest of the Republicans what it said about Trump trying to extort Ukraine.
I've had some friends wonder if the news about Bolton's book was leaked to give the Republicans in the Senate SOME advance warning about the books existance before they vote. Since if these revelations came out AFTERWARDS it could have been worse since the chances are low that anybody would believe "Oh I didn't KNOW" after the fact and among all the attempts to restrict evidence or prevent witnesses.
Support for impeachment ticked up a little.
Apparently Mc Connell admitted to the Senate Republicans that he doesn't have the votes to block witnesses.
Trump's probably fuming and McConnell (plus other Trumpeteers) is probably pooping himself. So long as Bolton out and out says "Trump held aid until the Ukrainians started the Investigation", Trump is going to be Guilty in the eyes of the Average American. Obviously Republicans still won't Remove him (though the vote might be closer to it), but this is great for us and terrible for them.
One notable thing with this impeachment is that once something is accomplished, people become more likely to support it.
The impeachment investigation got majority support very quickly after Pelosi announced it, rising from 37% to 52% almost immediately. The House impeaching Trump got majority support a little while after it passed, going from 47% approval (tied with ‘disapprove’) to 51%. I’m guessing some of that is Democrats worried about the political fallout of the process, who switch to approving things once they’ve been done.
And removal is at 48% support now, making it likely that a majority of people would switch to approving of it if it did happen.
Edited by Galadriel on Jan 28th 2020 at 6:30:21 AM

Biggie Smalls was quoted among other impassioned testimony.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/01/22/hakeem-jeffries-quotes-the-notorious-b-i-g-trump-impeachment-trial-mulvaney-vpx.cnn
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