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The Administrivia policy for works created in other languages is Troping Works Created in Other Languages. At the moment, this is focused on works with official translations.

More broadly, TV Tropes has a rule that the latest English translation will normally take priority over the original (some exceptions are listed on the Administrivia page), but many pages and examples still use older titles and character names. This cleanup is to help relieve that.

For policy discussions, see the wiki talk Translation Policy thread.

For pages needing work, see here: Sandbox.English Localization Cleanup

Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 24th 2024 at 3:40:26 PM

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#277: Feb 28th 2020 at 8:40:57 AM

[up]I don't like disambiguating by year in parentheses, and the search engine issue still stands.

[down][down]Only if there's no other way to distinguish them. In any case, we should take care of the smaller, uncontroversial moves first.

Edited by rjd1922 on Feb 28th 2020 at 8:05:24 AM

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Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
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#278: Feb 28th 2020 at 9:33:44 AM

Redirects are a thing.

Just move it to Reborn (2004).

Edited by Karxrida on Feb 28th 2020 at 9:34:07 AM

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#279: Feb 28th 2020 at 3:15:55 PM

[up][up] Isn't that the standard?

RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: I-It's not like I like you, or anything!
#280: Feb 28th 2020 at 6:01:45 PM

It's the "standard" because in many cases there's no other reasonable options. I personally dislike using a foreign title to disambiguate, but it's been done before for other works.

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#281: Feb 28th 2020 at 9:15:13 PM

Created Sandbox.English Localization Cleanup to make it easier to keep track of what's done and what needs to be.

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SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#282: Feb 29th 2020 at 2:08:14 AM

I don't know if anyone has brought this up before but what is the policy for works that are localised almost but not quite the same as their original name such as Busou Renkin, which is officially spelled Buso Renkin?

Edited by SebastianGray on Feb 29th 2020 at 10:11:03 AM

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#283: Feb 29th 2020 at 3:16:06 AM

[up] "Almost the same" isn't the same. Those types of works should be moved, as with any other work which changed names in English localization.

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DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#284: Feb 29th 2020 at 4:24:14 AM

Alright, since Shakugan No Shana doesn't have an official English title, should I use this transliteration "Burning-Eyed Shana" instead?

akanesarumara Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Abstaining
#285: Feb 29th 2020 at 4:31:00 AM

[up] I thought if there was no official English title we are free to use the original?

DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#286: Feb 29th 2020 at 4:35:18 AM

[up] Well, the Wiki page lists the transliteration as such, and according to another user on this thread (sorry I forgot your name), fan translations and transliterations are the only viable options if there is no official titles.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#287: Feb 29th 2020 at 4:59:37 AM

I think fantranslations and transliterations shouldn't be used at all for page titles. No one would know to search using a title we made up on the spot.

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#288: Feb 29th 2020 at 5:21:48 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Thanks for the clarification

As for Shana. From How to Create a Work's Page

What if it's a foreign work with a non-English title? TV Tropes is an English-language wiki, so we prefer to use the English titles where applicable. So if the work has an official localized title, use the English title for the page and add the non-English title as a redirect. However, if the work doesn't have an officially-translated English title, you can use the non-English title for the main page and make the English translation into a redirect instead.

The main page should be the original title, the English should be a redirect.

DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#289: Feb 29th 2020 at 5:53:22 AM

I added another folder on the sandbox page for works like Shakugan no Shana that don't have official English titles and just need English redirects.

DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#290: Feb 29th 2020 at 8:41:29 AM

I've started moving Kiseki Series to its official English namesake: Trails Series. I'll link the new page once I'm finished.

EDIT: Ok, finished. Here's the new page: Trails Series.

EDIT: I moved the rest of the sub-pages as well.

Edited by DivineFlame100 on Feb 29th 2020 at 10:08:55 AM

SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#291: Feb 29th 2020 at 11:23:29 AM

Okay, I had a look at what I had to do to move Busou Renkin to Buso Renkin only to find that the official English localisation spelling is already a redirect to the original spelling and I have no idea how to go about switching them.

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#292: Feb 29th 2020 at 11:31:48 AM

[up] On Busou Renkin's Related to page, go to the Manga.Buso Renkin link. There should should be a drop down list that shows the editing button on the right hand side of the page

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SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#293: Feb 29th 2020 at 11:47:51 AM

[up]Ah got it now thanks. I will try to get to doing the move if and when I have some time over the next week or so.

PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#294: Mar 1st 2020 at 12:00:06 AM

There’s a page called Manga.Kuroko No Basuke despite the official English title being Kuroko’s Basketball. How do I switch the names anyway? I’ve never done this myself before.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Mar 1st 2020 at 4:01:41 PM

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#295: Mar 1st 2020 at 12:06:24 AM

[up] Yeah that work is on our list. I have been wanting to move it when I have time.

Maybe take a look at How to Move a Page? You need to move the content from Manga.Kuroko No Basuke to Manga.Kurokos Basketball and then move all the subpages and wicks. You need to go to the Related To page of Manga.Kuroko No Basuke then to the Manga.Kurokos Basketball redirect. There should be a drop down list where the edit button is. If you need help with the move, I can assist you.

Edited by MacronNotes on Mar 1st 2020 at 3:12:28 PM

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#296: Mar 1st 2020 at 10:57:05 AM

Pinned and edited the header, per request.

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#297: Mar 1st 2020 at 4:51:02 PM

Hey ya'll, I'm wondering if this wouldn't be better in LT/P, since this is a popular thread and the issue doesn't seem like it'll go away any time soon.

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MacronNotes (she/her) (Captain) Relationship Status: Less than three
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#298: Mar 1st 2020 at 4:54:03 PM

It should be. There is a lot of work to do

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Brainulator9 Short-Term Projects herald from US Since: Aug, 2018 Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
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#299: Mar 1st 2020 at 5:35:21 PM

Move it.

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PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#300: Mar 1st 2020 at 7:27:23 PM

Movity move.[tup]

Also, how do I put an ‘ in the title? I’m gonna copy the contents of Manga.Koroko No Basuke to Sandbox.Korokos Basketball.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Mar 1st 2020 at 11:31:34 AM

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