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I just discovered this person on YouTube, member name is LegalEagle (real first name is Devin) who is a real life lawyer, and has been doing videos discussing the accuracies (or mistakes) TV shows or movies make when featuring real legal matters.

He already has many videos up, but this video is a good starting point, where he discusses the infamous series finale to Seinfeld.


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Edited by kory on Sep 22nd 2024 at 9:15:19 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2151: Aug 30th 2024 at 1:13:57 AM

Yeah, I miss the analysis videos too. The channel has become much more serious lately.

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JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#2152: Aug 30th 2024 at 1:22:16 AM

OK, I'll ask my question without bringing in contentious banned topics; how do we think, is there grounds to sue over the inflated demand thing? What are the ethics of mobilizing your fan base to create an illusion of wider demand?

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2153: Aug 30th 2024 at 4:55:39 AM

I think that depends on whether there was an intention to harm the brand. Though intent might not matter if they used the brand without permission.

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#2154: Aug 30th 2024 at 5:58:24 AM

The branding claim from the IOC is completely separate from the vendor lawsuits.

As far as I know, there is no law against overestimating the demand for your product. This isn't a criminal case. But if you sign a contract that contains performance clauses in the form of a certain amount of purchased goods and services, the party you signed with may be able to claim civil damages if you breach it.

Simplified, Logan Paul said, "I'm going to sell $100 million worth of product, so I need $50 million worth of ingredients." Then he only sold $50 million of product, but he's still on the hook for the contracted purchase of ingredients.

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#2155: Aug 30th 2024 at 6:46:20 AM

By coincidence I was listenig to the Behind the Bastards episodes about how the Nazis kept their Olympics and...ah...I am unsurprised about the IOC.

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#2156: Aug 30th 2024 at 11:11:12 AM

I imagine that inflated demand is only something you can face penalty over if you use the artificially inflated demand to misrepresent as part of a fraud.

A pump and dump scheme is a form of artificially inflated demand being used for fraud, if you misrepresent temporary demand as enduring demand to get money out of an investor/sponsor that would also be fraud.

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#2157: Sep 1st 2024 at 11:59:38 PM

Also, I didn't know the US doesn't limit the amount of caffeine in energy drinks, but also kinda not surprised.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2158: Sep 2nd 2024 at 12:37:26 AM

The US tends not to care too much about poisoning its citizens. It used to be much worse. You should read The Jungle sometime.

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#2159: Sep 2nd 2024 at 12:42:07 AM

[up][up] Look up Redline Energy if you want to see how absurd it can get. Especially if you can find images of the original cans where it wasn't listed that you're only suppose to drink half the can at a time.

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#2160: Sep 2nd 2024 at 1:04:11 AM

So if I get my history right, energy drinks was a thing from Japan that was seen by American capitalists and increased the caffeine content?

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#2161: Sep 2nd 2024 at 1:38:18 AM

Well, kind of. My understanding is that the proto-energy drink is american, which was developed further in Japan during US occupation into "nutritional supplements" (which had really high stimulant content too), which led to what we now call energy drinks, which are descended from those Japanese "nutritional supplements" being classified as "nutritional supplements" in the US well into the 21st century. (This is no longer the case as far as I'm aware) which made them subject to different regulations for much of that time, and it's only now becoming apparent relatively recently just how much caffeine is in them because when they were reclassified as a food their reporting requirements changed.

Nutritional Supplements are a regulatory mess across much of the world, basically, and energy drinks being like they are seems to be largely a consequence of that plus their popularity in the US, rather than any problem unique to the US.

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#2162: Sep 2nd 2024 at 2:06:41 AM

It has become especially notable lately because we are reaching the point where people with weak hearts are dying from single bottles of energy drink.

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#2163: Sep 2nd 2024 at 6:08:49 AM

The US tends not to care too much about poisoning its citizens. It used to be much worse. You should read The Jungle sometime.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2164: Sep 2nd 2024 at 8:56:30 AM

It won't do much for the workers, of course, but at least our food will get better!

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#2165: Sep 6th 2024 at 1:05:03 AM

Devin covered that case of the parents of a school shooter being sued, right? I hear on the news that another such arrest of a negligent father has been made in a school shooting case.

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JethroQWalrustitty Since: Jan, 2001
#2166: Sep 6th 2024 at 2:09:19 AM

I guess the Michigan case set a precedent and law enforcement are willing to jump on it faster now. Hopefully this will send a message to parents that buying a gun to a kid is a bad idea, but I don't know how well it will work, because no one thinks their kid is going to be a mass shooter. Both this kid and the one in Michigan were already investigated for making threats before the incident, and their parents didn't see a need to remove their guns.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#2167: Sep 6th 2024 at 5:07:18 AM

Well, as long as it gives some parents pause in buying a gun for their kid and prevent a shooting, it will have been a net positive.

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#2168: Sep 6th 2024 at 10:30:28 AM

Jack Smith isnt backing down. Instead of heeding Cannons ridiculous ruling, he is now basically daring the supreme court to act or deal with the terridying legal implications.

Also: heed the banner. We can talk about the video but carefully.

Edited by CountofBleck on Sep 6th 2024 at 1:33:03 PM

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#2169: Sep 6th 2024 at 10:38:53 AM

Well, no, we can't. You can make the post describing the video and it's contents, but you can't discuss the actual contents.

Edited by Resileafs on Sep 6th 2024 at 2:35:15 PM

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#2170: Sep 6th 2024 at 10:42:36 AM

Yeah, I'm pretty sure TVT is trying to be as nonpolitical as it can so saying literally anything about the video's subject isn't allowed. But talking about the video itself can be fair game.

For example: I can say that I really don't like how Devin transitions to his ad read. The funny thing is that I think he set himself up really well, he's pushing Incogni and he sets himself up by talking about Pence and going "gee, what happened to that guy?" I like the premise of the setup but goddamn the transitions never land for me.

Also, I really do wonder how many episodes I've half watched because in the middle he transitions to an Eagle Team ad and I turn off the video thinking it's over. It was definitely a few before I realized he was doing those in the middle of the episodes, not at the end.

Edited by Larkmarn on Sep 6th 2024 at 1:43:30 PM

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#2171: Sep 6th 2024 at 11:05:37 AM

[up] Minor correction, it's American politics that's banned. If Devin made a video about, I dunno, the legal ramifications of Macron banning ducks, we'd be allowed to talk about it.

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#2172: Sep 6th 2024 at 11:33:17 AM

If I have to choose between walking very carefully through a mine field and avoiding the mine field entirely, I would personally choose the latter.

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#2173: Sep 6th 2024 at 11:44:17 AM

When i said talk about i kinda meant taking parts or writing a summary stuff in the actual video, but yeah, fair to those who wish not to take the risk.

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#2174: Sep 6th 2024 at 11:48:17 AM

I was nervous looking at the banner because we DO NOT want to get this thread locked up again.

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#2175: Sep 6th 2024 at 12:05:15 PM

I guess it is fine as long as the discussion is on the video's topic, but as soon as it starts moving around other subjects then it is going to get the hammer.

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