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I just discovered this person on YouTube, member name is LegalEagle (real first name is Devin) who is a real life lawyer, and has been doing videos discussing the accuracies (or mistakes) TV shows or movies make when featuring real legal matters.

He already has many videos up, but this video is a good starting point, where he discusses the infamous series finale to Seinfeld.


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Edited by kory on Sep 22nd 2024 at 9:15:19 AM

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#1776: Jun 2nd 2024 at 12:38:57 PM

Like my therapist said I'm likely on the autistic spectrum but there was little point in getting tested because I'm too old and the tests were geared more towards difficulty learning than the symptoms I experience.
What's classified as "too old"?

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#1777: Jun 2nd 2024 at 12:48:15 PM

[up]Never. It just means that the therapist in question does not have the tools available to treat adults.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#1778: Jun 2nd 2024 at 12:52:12 PM

Feel like we're way off topic now.

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#1779: Jun 2nd 2024 at 12:54:30 PM

I had a similar experience with my GP, they felt that because I knew I was autistic and already had coping strategies there wasn’t a real need for me to get a formal diagnosis. I ended up pushing for one further down the line anyway and it has been useful.

It comes down to the fact that a formal diagnosis will often unlock a chunk of support both in the form of direct services and in the form of legal protections, but you have to be able and willing to utilise said support for it to be worthwhile, as a formal dissngosid can also put a target on your back.

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#1780: Jun 2nd 2024 at 1:21:54 PM

What's classified as "too old"?

An adult? Most official autism screenings are targeted at young children. There's no formal criteria for adult screenings, it's either done through observations from a specialist or unofficial modifications of the DSM criteria. There's kind of a stigma that if you made it to adulthood without a diagnosis then your brand of the spectrum "is not so bad."

I had a similar experience with my GP, they felt that because I knew I was autistic and already had coping strategies there wasn’t a real need for me to get a formal diagnosis. I ended up pushing for one further down the line anyway and it has been useful.

It comes down to the fact that a formal diagnosis will often unlock a chunk of support both in the form of direct services and in the form of legal protections, but you have to be able and willing to utilise said support for it to be worthwhile, as a formal dissngosid can also put a target on your back.

Yep, very similar to my experiences.

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#1781: Jun 2nd 2024 at 2:35:10 PM

Again, way off topic.

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#1783: Jun 3rd 2024 at 9:49:11 AM

Discussing Trump's conviction.

Featuring Liz Dye and Hank Green.

Edited by Ghilz on Jun 3rd 2024 at 12:54:47 PM

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#1784: Jun 3rd 2024 at 10:04:41 AM

And now we got the video of Trump's conviction.

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#1785: Jun 3rd 2024 at 3:33:34 PM

So, just to check, Stormy Daniels was having an affair with Trump voluntarily, right? She wasn't paid for it or anything? Because the way she keeps talking about it makes it sound like she didn't want to be there, when the whole extramarital affair thing seems to suggest otherwise.

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#1786: Jun 3rd 2024 at 3:56:10 PM

From her testimony, she was a reluctant participant who was "strongly encouraged" to sleep with the former guy.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#1787: Jun 3rd 2024 at 3:59:23 PM

Reading up on it, I'm surprised it was just a one night stand, basically. The way everyone was talking about it, I thought it was a full blown extramarital affair. Daniels sure sounds like a jilted lover the way she talks about it in her book.

Does anyone believe this affair would have cost him the election? I find it hard to believe. I mean, if "grab them by the pussy" didn't do it...

I also find the part about the blackout and not remembering how she ended up on the bed a bit odd.

Edited by Redmess on Jun 3rd 2024 at 1:04:30 PM

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#1788: Jun 3rd 2024 at 9:37:46 PM

Does anyone believe this affair would have cost him the election? I find it hard to believe. I mean, if "grab them by the pussy" didn't do it...

Probably not since his fan base's mentality is "If Trump did it, it's okay." Or as members of my family say "He must have had a very good reason to do it."

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#1789: Jun 3rd 2024 at 10:57:25 PM

This was before he had fully consolidated the GOP into his personal cult. So there was worry that this might be seen as a deal breaker. But as said, if the Hollywood Access tapes didn't do it then this probably wouldn't either.

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#1790: Jun 4th 2024 at 1:17:42 AM

[up]x7 Well that video answered my original question. The during trial antics are a factor in sentencing.

Edited by Memers on Jun 4th 2024 at 1:22:11 AM

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#1791: Jun 4th 2024 at 7:12:52 AM

Even convicted felon Donald Trump did not know how low Republicans were ready to go to "own the libs".

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#1792: Jun 4th 2024 at 7:21:44 AM

Curious what the sentence will be.

It's 11 July, by the way, not June, I must have misheard it earlier.

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#1793: Jun 4th 2024 at 7:31:06 AM

There are at least three presidents besides Trump that have cheated on their wives that I can think of: Bill Clinton, JFK, and FDR. Granted, the latter two were only found out after their deaths, but still. Infidelity is a dick move but not necessarily a disqualifier.

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#1794: Jun 4th 2024 at 7:34:22 AM

Not for a lack of trying on the GOP’s part. Remember they tried to impeach Bill Clinton?

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#1795: Jun 4th 2024 at 8:09:29 AM

Ironically, Clinton got into more trouble for lying about it under oath than for the actual infidelity.

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#1796: Jun 4th 2024 at 8:26:22 AM

Bill Clinton was a notorious philanderer from way back in his days as an Arkansas politician. It wasn't new information. But yes, he got in trouble for lying about it, not for the act itself. Being unfaithful to one's spouse is not a crime (in the US, anyway). Newt Gingrich, who was the voice of the GOP in going after him at the time, was a serial adulterer, at one point cheating on his wife while she was dying of cancer.

While I would normally call out a "both sides" argument, this isn't that. It's more of a "glass houses" one. The GOP's protestations of "family values" have always been intensely hypocritical.

As for Trump, if he hadn't tried to cover up the affair with Daniels, none of this would have happened. He did everything out of fear that he'd lose the election if it came out, but the irony is that his base probably wouldn't have cared. The Access Hollywood tape didn't defeat him, so why would this?

Edited by Fighteer on Jun 4th 2024 at 11:29:39 AM

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alanh Since: May, 2010
#1797: Jun 4th 2024 at 9:03:06 AM

Yeah, the Clintons had the famous 60 Minutes interview about their marriage before the election. And there were certainly more cheating presidents, Jefferson for example.

Although lying about it was the legal hook, the impeachment made a big deal about how this proved he was morally unsuitable to be president.

At the time of the Access Hollywood tape, Trump was still seen as having some vulnerabilities. A bunch of republicans called for him to drop out at the time. Now? Nothing but enthusiastic support for him is acceptable.

Only Nixon could go to China, only Reagan could be divorced, only Trump could cheat on his wife. And maybe only Trump could be a convicted felon.

Edited by alanh on Jun 4th 2024 at 9:05:49 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#1798: Jun 4th 2024 at 9:09:54 AM

Hmm, I don't think that's a Trump thing so much as a changing times thing. The public just doesn't really care about infidelity any more these days, probably in part thanks to high profile cases like Clinton. Trump just hadn't got the message on that yet.

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#1799: Jun 4th 2024 at 9:21:22 AM

No, it's definitely a Republican thing. Rules for thee but not for me is their motto. If a Democrat candidate had said and done a fraction of what convicted felon Donald Trump did, they would have been kicked out of the race instantly.

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#1800: Jun 4th 2024 at 9:32:02 AM

@alanh

Jefferson for example.
Did he ?


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