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I just discovered this person on YouTube, member name is LegalEagle (real first name is Devin) who is a real life lawyer, and has been doing videos discussing the accuracies (or mistakes) TV shows or movies make when featuring real legal matters.

He already has many videos up, but this video is a good starting point, where he discusses the infamous series finale to Seinfeld.


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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#1051: Nov 8th 2023 at 2:07:59 PM

I could have done without him using the "welsh" slur. You'd think that would be a bit more of a well-known faux pas, given that at least two US presidents have quite publicly been forced to apologise for using it in the past.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1052: Nov 8th 2023 at 2:33:48 PM

What is welsh a slur for?

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#1053: Nov 8th 2023 at 2:48:48 PM

The what now.

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#1054: Nov 8th 2023 at 2:52:41 PM

Referring to the use of 'welching' to mean reneging on a debt. Explanation here.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1055: Nov 8th 2023 at 3:03:37 PM

Oh, welching. Since when is that a slur?

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#1056: Nov 8th 2023 at 3:48:52 PM

apparently 1860s

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#1057: Nov 8th 2023 at 7:22:42 PM

people have an odd habit of making verbs designed to be slurs targeting European minorities huh?

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Lost in Space
#1058: Nov 8th 2023 at 7:26:54 PM

First time I'm hearing of that word being a slur, although I guess it makes sense.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#1059: Nov 8th 2023 at 7:34:11 PM

which two presidents used it? for the curious? If they were from say before WW 2 chances are high that the sandals were forgotten by most folks by now.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1060: Nov 9th 2023 at 2:22:43 AM

[up][up][up] Well, that's what you get after thousands of years of conflict. And it's hardly just Europeans doing this. Eskimo was a slur for Inuit people long before the Europeans got there, just to name a particularly famous one.

[up] Man, those must have been the days, when the biggest scandal coming out of the White House was the prez using some obscure slur he probably wasn't even aware of being one...

Edited by Redmess on Nov 9th 2023 at 11:23:53 AM

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#1061: Nov 9th 2023 at 8:01:46 PM

Pretty sure "ginger" was also used as a slur against redheads/irish.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1062: Nov 10th 2023 at 1:21:30 AM

Which is pretty funny considering how many redheaded heroines there are these days.

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1063: Nov 10th 2023 at 1:27:26 AM

[up]Red-headed women have generally been considered attractive for at least decades now. Red-headed men, on the other hand, are absolutely shit out of luck.

Edited by Kayeka on Nov 10th 2023 at 10:27:46 AM

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#1064: Nov 10th 2023 at 11:17:26 AM

Referring to the use of 'welching' to mean reneging on a debt. Explanation here.

That's a fairly decent tl;dr summary.

As it says, there's a very long-standard of the English portraying the Welsh as thieves and liars (look up the English nursery rhyme "Taffy Was A Welshman" and the (thankfully now extinct) English tradition of burning leek-wearing effigies to the rhyme on St. David's Day). The link also points out the problem with using the term "Wales" and "Welsh" just to refer to the nation and people, too.

If you want an example, here's the Washington Post mocking the outcry in the Welsh-American community when President Clinton apologised for doing it back in 1995. It starts off looking like it's going to be a serious article, but doesn't bother hiding the mockery by the end of the article.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 10th 2023 at 7:19:17 PM

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Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#1066: Nov 10th 2023 at 6:20:25 PM

I know a guy who immigrated to America to escape red-headed bullying, so yeah, it be bad in the UK.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#1067: Nov 12th 2023 at 5:20:12 PM

Yeah, lots of Irish, Scottish and Welsh redheads, so lots of bullying in the UK. Women are as bullied as men. If they're natural redheads. Dyed redheads get told they're attractive though. There's been a push for the past couple of years to get red hair added to the list of protected characteristics, which would turn it into illegal discrimination. Some of the hate directed at Prince Harry is because he's a redhead.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Nov 12th 2023 at 1:26:53 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1068: Nov 13th 2023 at 2:30:07 AM

I genuinely don't understand this aversion. Get a life, England.

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#1069: Nov 13th 2023 at 2:52:45 AM

Eh, I don't think that's so firm a thing. You get red-headed discrimination within stuff like playground bullying and when people already dislike a person and are looking for something to insult, but I really don't think it's on the same level as other minorities. Also while it is a more niche view, annecdotaly at least I have definitely encountered people who consider redheaded men attractive.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#1070: Nov 13th 2023 at 3:35:16 AM

I always tend to create redheaded characters in games if possible.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#1071: Nov 14th 2023 at 9:39:45 AM

Devin covers SBF's conviction.

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#1072: Nov 20th 2023 at 11:47:04 AM

Trump testifies in the courtroom. It did not go well.

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#1073: Nov 20th 2023 at 12:55:18 PM

At this point the judge only has himself to blame for not putting a strict gag order on Trump.

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1074: Nov 20th 2023 at 1:01:55 PM

And for not jailing him on contempt of court.

Edited by Kayeka on Nov 20th 2023 at 10:02:14 AM

Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Perpetually Confused
#1075: Nov 20th 2023 at 1:30:41 PM

He tried to put a gag order and it got struck down.


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