New interview with the director and producer of the Suicide Squad anime
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Ohtani: Yes. We began working on Suicide Squad back when only the first movie had been released.
Osada: They announced that director James Gunn was making his next movie (The Suicide Squad) and I had heard about the characters that would be appearing in it. There was a Harley Quinn movie (Birds of Prey) in the interim as well. I remember talking about how the Joker and Harley had split up in the film. We were like, “What do we do?!” (laughs).
Wow WB did geenlit all these Squad projects during the first movie's development
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 29th 2024 at 3:56:52 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Well JL vs Squad came out in 2016 same year as the movie so the intended synergy is obvious.
Amusingly the book focused on Killer Frost (character not in the movie) as its main protagonist to the detriment of the rest of the cast arguably, setting up her redemption story so she can join the Justice League of America ongoing after it ended.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 29th 2024 at 6:25:51 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Bear in mind the New 52 era also had a lot of things going for it like making Grifter a big name player, make the Daemonites from WildCATS into the next big threat, erase nearly every other Batgirl in order to bring Barbara back, retcon Phantom Stranger into Judas Iscariot, change The Question into a supernatural being, etc. New 52 was also the start of Harley Quinn's emancipation and mega push into her own character w/c is 1 of the few successful things to happen in that era. Aquaman and Black Manta's feud being due to killing their respective fathers also began in New 52 as well as Orm being rehabbed into having positive traits.
Almost forgot about the Caitlin Snow version of Killer Frost who became the basis of Danielle Panabaker's character in Arrowverse. That too is another arguably successful venture as well as a way to differentiate the heroic Killer Frost (Caitlin) from the JLU-esqu supervillain Killer Frost (Louis Lincoln).
Edited by KRider on Oct 29th 2024 at 6:30:20 AM
Set! Avenge! "Henshin." Black General! Bujin Sword! Ready, Fight!So Suicide Squad got a sequel movie, spin-off film, video game, and a tv anime.
I am curious if they have anything left in the development pipeline or if this is it now that Isekai has aired.
Meanwhile Aquaman only got a 3 part animated streaming miniseries King of Atlantis (which has since been removed from HBO Max) and Wonder Woman does have a game in development but in development hell as we haven't heard anything about it since it was announced several years ago.
Man if only other properties can get that love Squad got.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Needs a Bat or Bat-adjascent character slapped on to get love.
Though there were rumors of a Blue Beetle animated series a bit ago- I wonder if that's still a thing.
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That was the announcement that a Blue Beelte cartoon is in development so we're probably not going to hear about it for a while.
It makes sense with how the New 52 was intended to function as an evergreen origin for adaptations. Both the New 52 movie universe and DCEU made heavy use of its setting or costumes.
Which makes it funny how the New 5w is long over but since DC has no established a new evergreen framework, new stories still make use of its aesthetic.
Like the recently announced DC/Sonic the Hedgegod crossover featured Sonic in Barry's New 52 suit with the heavy yellow lines despite that costume being replaced with the classic suit a while ago.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 30th 2024 at 4:50:01 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Perhaps DC editorial is still bitter that the public perception of the New 52 rejected it as much as it had, thinking that if they still commit to this, MAYBE people with money will finally love what New 52 brings to the table.
Self-professed Wild Card who thinks cynicism isn't so bad.
Unlikely.
For a lot of projects on a grand scale, you can’t really change horses mid-stream - you can only direct them or, or risk the loss of all the money sunk in by canceling them outright.
You can see a similar situation happen with a lot of Marvel projects that came out in the late 2010’s, including the Marvel Avengers game, that were the last vestiges of an initiative by Disney that did not work out, but it was already far along enough in development that no one involved could do anything but let the train wreck barrel forward.
Besides, there’s nothing inherently wrong with the Suicide Squad as a premise that would have spurred them to stop these projects back when they had the chance. The Gunn film was fairly well received, remember, with its box office issues being generally attributed to being released during COVID.
The confusion is more the insane amount of projects this got.
Compared to Wonder Woman and Aquaman getting only like one thing and Flash never getting anything despite having a successful TV show for a while, WB invested the hell out of Suicide Squad.
Squad got a new animated movie in Hell to Pay while Flash's role in the animated films is once again reduced to time travel and Flashpoint riffs.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Also about harley, while her popularity explode with new 52, she have already a lot of popularity being one of the best thing to come from animated series, also her redisine in Arkhan asylum which VERY much inspired 52 harley.
The comic was mostly the turing point when she become a chararter only nominally related to the Joker
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Basically, the short of it is that DC saw that Marvel and other studios were making gangbusters with “questionably moral superhero bad boy” teams (most notably GOTG) and tried to throw all their support behind making one of their own.
So they cherry picked the Suicide Squad as a team they could retool into their own version of Marvel’s success, pinned Harley - unquestionably DC’s most overall successful anti-villain / anti-hero - as the new face of the sub franchise, and threw the whole hog into as much Squad material as possibly in an effort make it a household name, hoping the idea would print money no matter what they did. Typical studio overextension.
As usually happens when studios do this sort of thing, the idea did not print money no matter what they did. Some of the Squad stuff has been pretty good, some of it has been pretty awful, the synergy hasn’t really taken off and the fact that they’re forcing it has been increasingly obvious to consumers.
This isn’t the first time DC’s made this mistake, either. That mentality is part and parcel of the whole debacle that was the DCEU in the first place.
Ironically, however, their actions seem to have inspired Marvel right back, seeing as the upcoming Thunderbolts movie is clearly modeled as Marvel’s own answer to the DCEU Suicide Squad.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 30th 2024 at 1:21:12 AM
The co-promotion of Harley also aligns up with the characters run away success in the 2010s where she was able to support like 5 books at once.
Now the character has cooled off in popularity for a while now but companies are slow to pick up on this and as shown by the confirmation that the Isekai anime was greenlit as far back as 2016 a lot of these projects can take a surprisingly long time to see the light of day.
Edited by slimcoder on Oct 30th 2024 at 1:27:51 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."The buzz I’ve heard is that while her comic sales aren’t as huge, the character more than makes up for it in merch sales and investment in non-comics venues, so as long as her comics still remain profitable it doesn’t bother them. She’s basically the only character who has survived this whole debacle.
Reminds me of how Iron Man was chugging along after the first Civil War.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 30th 2024 at 1:34:49 AM
Another bit from that interview.
Osada: I thought that if we just used the same members as in the movie, the viewers who weren't really interested would think it was just a remake, so at first I was like, “let's change everyone except for Harley!” but that was way too rash (laughs). There were people who had latched on to other characters like Peacemaker as well, so I thought changing it only slightly from the movie's cast would strike the best balance. I had actually put out the suggestion for Captain Boomerang, but everyone said “he's just a guy who throws a boomerang” and turned me down (laughs).
The massive disrespect to Boomerang.
Especially since other than the 2 superhumans (King Shark and Clayface), the other members of the squad is crazy clown lady with a bat and 2 guys with guns.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Yeah, Boomerang can definitely be interesting with the right writer.
I do think a lot of potential in Suicide Squad comes from varying up members. I mean, ideally you'd also have previous stories in the same continuities with these characters as antagonists beforehand, but that hasn't been going very well.

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Referring to the Creature Commandos trailer on the previous page:
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That actually looks quite fun, and with some interesting characters! ^_^
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Moving discussion to the proper thread.
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