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Lightbearer77 Since: Aug, 2019
#1: Aug 14th 2019 at 4:28:43 PM

I plan on making an isekai comic that breaks many the various clichés associated with the genre (i.e. OP hero, harem, RPG Mechanics Verse), and was wondering if having a Five-Man Band type of party (3 male, 2 female) would work out.

It’s going to be a traditional medieval-esque fantasy world and there’ll be a lot of action, which is why I personally prefer it here over the Four-Temperament Ensemble.

Any advice?

Edited by Lightbearer77 on Aug 16th 2019 at 12:56:53 PM

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#2: Aug 15th 2019 at 9:17:14 PM

Any 5mb is only as good as its The Lancer.

Try avoid game mechanics

At least one member should be native.

BattleRaizer from Realm of Khorne Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#3: Aug 15th 2019 at 9:25:49 PM

Female barbarian wear full body armor, cover even the face. Like show non of the figure of an female( no boob armor, no showing bare legs,....).

E.T technically is a Isekai movie
Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4: Aug 16th 2019 at 12:54:34 AM

Barbarians don't really do full-body armour, though. That's kinda what makes them barbarians.

As for OP, yeah, sure, five-man band, why not? It's an awful lot of characters to juggle, if you ask me, but most series with this sort of team tend to focus on one or two members anyway.

And yeah, please, don't do game mechanics. That trope is so tired and honestly not even all that great to begin with. And for that matter, don't try to be clever and have your computer nerd be the mage because magic is apparently just like programming. I hate that with a passion.

Lightbearer77 Since: Aug, 2019
#5: Aug 16th 2019 at 1:01:57 AM

I had no intent on making it an RPG Mechanics 'Verse. If you ask me, it’s just a lazy way to flesh the world out, unless there’s some justifiable reason for it.

Also, only The Leader was going to be from Earth/Stupidworld/etc. the other four will be native.

Edited by Lightbearer77 on Aug 16th 2019 at 1:04:05 AM

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#6: Aug 16th 2019 at 1:08:52 AM

Well, that's... pretty standard, I suppose.

So what clichés are you trying to break here?

BattleRaizer from Realm of Khorne Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#7: Aug 16th 2019 at 1:10:38 AM

MC can be an alien rather than your standard highschool pretty boy.

E.T technically is a Isekai movie
Lightbearer77 Since: Aug, 2019
#8: Aug 16th 2019 at 1:15:35 AM

What I meant by breaking clichés was to avoid using them. I personally feel like isekai is one of those genres that feels too wish-fulfillment for me. My MC will probably zig-zag the Stock Light-Novel Hero, and the party would consist of 3 male and 2 female.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#9: Aug 16th 2019 at 1:16:46 AM

Okay, then you avoid those clichés. What do we get in return?

Lightbearer77 Since: Aug, 2019
#10: Aug 16th 2019 at 1:45:27 AM

An actual epic-fantasy story that isn’t wish fulfillment from the lens of a Mary Sue. My intent for this manga was to rebuild the isekai genre from the ground up, and doing it less for the trend and more for the story itself.

I have a weird sort of taste for the genre. The concept of a high-school student from Earth being sent to a fantasy world is something I love, but the problem is when he treks deep into Mary Sue territory (like many of them do). Ironically enough, my initiation to the genre was the Deconstructive Parody of it that is Konosuba.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#11: Aug 16th 2019 at 1:53:02 AM

Right. So how does this protagonist of yours end up as The Hero?

Lightbearer77 Since: Aug, 2019
#12: Aug 16th 2019 at 2:10:33 AM

He was sent to this other world in order to fulfill a prophecy in that world. That is the ONLY cliché I have the guts to play straight, but even then at the very least he wasn’t hit by Truck-kun.

Edited by Lightbearer77 on Aug 16th 2019 at 2:18:31 AM

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#13: Aug 16th 2019 at 3:25:26 AM

Well, that, and the Five-Man Band, the Two Girls to a Team, the whole isekai bit, and the fact that your clueless teenager is propelled to a status of power and influence by account of being The Chosen One as opposed to any personal merit.

Like, come on, what's the clever bit?

Edited by Kayeka on Aug 16th 2019 at 12:27:40 PM

Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#14: Aug 16th 2019 at 5:27:03 AM

To be fair 5MB with balanced gender ratio, IS extremely unusual for isekai.

Usually it's just guy+harem

Lightbearer77 Since: Aug, 2019
#15: Aug 16th 2019 at 8:48:28 AM

Trust me, I’ll work something out. When I write, I make up the ideas as I go, writing whatever comes to mind, so long as it doesn’t contradict what I’ve already written.

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16: Aug 16th 2019 at 11:18:00 AM

And I honestly wish you good luck with that.

MagnumForce Since: Feb, 2017
#17: Aug 16th 2019 at 11:25:46 AM

Could maybe change up the setting a little too. Standard Fantasy Settings are the most cliched part of Isekai-stories, but one set in a more Late Medieval/renaissance based setting would actually stand out. Sure cannons and handcannons might be a thing, but it would prevent your 5MB from becoming invincible Mary Sues that dominate the battlefield.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#18: Aug 16th 2019 at 2:48:08 PM

Or a Victorian era period would be interesting. Or Even better one that is a Gaslamp Fantasy or Steampunk setting. Other undertilized fantasy settings would be Ocean Punk, Cattle Punk, Sky Punk, and Dungeon Punk.

Edited by firewriter on Aug 16th 2019 at 2:50:28 AM

Lightbearer77 Since: Aug, 2019
#19: Aug 16th 2019 at 9:20:26 PM

Fantasy tropes are the least of my worries. It’s isekai clichés that I’m trying to avoid, but I do plan on playing with the tropes. My main protagonist, Kouji Akezawa, was going to zig-zag the Stock Light-Novel Hero, potentially being a cross between it and Stock Shōnen Hero.

Edited by Lightbearer77 on Aug 16th 2019 at 9:21:41 AM

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#20: Aug 18th 2019 at 5:51:23 AM

~Lightbearer77

Moved thread to Writer's Block, since it's more appropriate there.

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