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There is a moratorium on merging character pages, so don't ask for that.

Character pages are a large chunk of the wiki, but they're often filled with problems that don't get resolved. These problems include:

  • Zero Context Examples
  • Indentation problems, including bulleting tropes under supertropes or tropeslashing
  • Spoiler tag misuse
  • A lack of alphabetization
  • Empty character folders
  • Plagiarized character descriptions
  • Misused tropes, or tropes that don't belong on character pages
  • Broken or incorrect formatting
  • References to Dummied Out content for video game characters.
  • YMMV / Trivia trope mentions

Per How to Create a Character Page, character pages should only include tropes that describe the characters. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, Unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly).

If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask about that at Are These Character Tropes.

All characters must have at least one contextualized trope for their section or folder to be visible. If you find a character that has no contextualized tropes present, comment out the entire section and add this tag:

%% As per Administrivia/HowToCreateACharacterPage, every character must have at least one listed trope that's not a Administrivia/ZeroContextExample. All characters who don't meet this requirement have been commented out. Add more tropes or add more context to any existing ZCE tropes before uncommenting them.

There is a moratorium on merging character pages, so don't ask for that.


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Edited by kory on Aug 31st 2025 at 3:59:59 AM

MB74 Since: Feb, 2024 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1976: Aug 18th 2024 at 6:34:28 PM

[up]I’d say so [tup]

Edited by MB74 on Aug 18th 2024 at 7:34:43 AM

I’ll lift my face, and run to the sunlight.
Echidna from Ontario, Canada (Striking Back) Relationship Status: Two-timing
Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#1978: Aug 19th 2024 at 2:38:29 PM

For The Karate Kid. I posted this in CSP cleanup but since it also concerns none CS Ps I wanted to make sure I was thorough

I’m all for merging any character who has only been in one Dojo back to the Dojo Pages. So Kyler can go back to Cobra Kai. Sam can go back to Miyagi Do or The LaRusso Family I’m not picky on which. But I want to explore other options for major characters who have moved around a lot.

First off Miguel can go back to [1] but he’s been a major player in every Dojo and I thought maybe since we added Tory’s Family to her page , we could do the same for him. We all ready have The La Russo Family as a page. It’ll keep both Eagle Fang and Diaz Family relatively short and easy to edit without making a CSP.

As for Hawk he meets all the requirements except for exploring other options so I figured we can make a A Binary Brothers page for him and Demetri instead of merging Demetri back to Miyagi Do. There is already a folder for Bibary Brothers in Miyagi Do and it takes care of not having a CSP or merging Eli back to any particular Dojo.

I suppose Robby Johnny and Daniel can stay as is unless someone has an alternative.

And lastly We can merge Kreese and and Silver into a Cobra Kai Founders page as there is a folder for them as a duo.

Doing the suggested changes would cut the amount of pages in the index from 17 to 13

DoctorSleep Since: Nov, 2013
#1979: Aug 20th 2024 at 9:42:08 PM

Byte count for the proposed Bleach Character Index:

fireheart (Don’t ask)
#1980: Aug 21st 2024 at 3:55:38 AM

So while I was adding a couple of things to the AKB48 page and did some cleanup of the SKE48 page, I looked over their sister group pages (there are currently ones for the Japanese-based sister groups) and found that of those, STU48 is the only one to have a character page. (STU48 for reference) Now I recall the other sister groups having character pages in the past and they've since been cut, but I'm not entirely sure on what grounds or when. So STU48 kind of sticks out in that regard.

With that being said, there's another issue with this page, which is that it's prone to getting out of date very fast. The nature of STU48 and the other 48 Groups in general is that the lineup is changing constantly over time as members graduate and new generations are introduced. To put this into perspective, of the 15 members currently listed as "active" on that page, only 8 are still active STU48 members (1 has transferred to KLP 48 and the others have graduated). While I'm a fan of the various 48 Groups, I do not have the time or energy to dedicate to keeping this page up to date to that degree of detail and I don't know who else would (checking the page history reveals ONE troper who had done so previously and while it's clear they're also a fan, their history seems to have shifted to other groups over the last couple of years).

I therefore would ask if it's OK for me to send this page to the Cut List?

Edited by fireheart on Aug 21st 2024 at 3:56:24 AM

Amonimus the "Retromancer" from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the "Retromancer"
#1981: Aug 21st 2024 at 4:21:36 AM

[up] I don't find "often needs to be updated" a good cut reason. Characters.STU48 having ambiguity between Kayfabe and Real Life Troping is a better question.

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
fireheart (Don’t ask)
#1982: Aug 21st 2024 at 8:09:23 PM

[up] That's fair.

Out of date issues aside, I've taken another look at it and there's a few other problems:

- there's a small handful of examples which appear to be referring to the members work on individual Livestreams (someone who's more familiar with J-Pop idol culture can confirm, but I believe these are mostly streams where the member just casually interacts with fans and may talk about themselves and their personal life). Not sure if those are tropable in and of themselves (iirc, it's usually a no).

- another handful of examples appear to be shoehorns or straight up misuse (eg Buxom Beauty standard is used to refer to one member who likes to show off her chest, accent interest is used more to refer to this person speaking with another dialect, alternate character reading refers to a place someone wants to visit instead of the intended use etc).

- there are a couple which may have been appearance tropes by stealth, such as Kaleidoscope Hair, Girlish Pigtails and so forth.

At the very least, even if this doesn't get cut outright, does anyone have any issues with me cutting misuse and such and then reviewing if it can be salvaged?

Hfxjfrvnn Since: Jan, 2021
#1983: Aug 22nd 2024 at 6:40:51 AM

@1978: I think Sam should go in the LaRusso Family. Would a Lawrence-Diaz family page be viable?

Edited by Hfxjfrvnn on Aug 22nd 2024 at 6:41:04 AM

Ayumi-chan 3rd happiest man in Connecticut from Iacon City (Experienced Trainee) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
3rd happiest man in Connecticut
#1984: Aug 22nd 2024 at 6:50:39 AM

Re this: the pages have been launched.

She/Her | Currently cleaning: N/A
ToonAbby Have a Death-End Thanksgiving, y'all! from Gamindustri Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Have a Death-End Thanksgiving, y'all!
#1985: Aug 22nd 2024 at 7:01:54 AM

Any comments on this?

"It's requested that your death ends here, now!" - Sayaka, Death end re;Quest Code Z.
Hfxjfrvnn Since: Jan, 2021
#1986: Aug 22nd 2024 at 7:37:37 AM

Coming back to this, the flashback characters would fit onto a single page at 83,774 bytes. Would it be ok to merge them?

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1987: Aug 22nd 2024 at 8:40:28 AM

That makes sense to me!

Hfxjfrvnn Since: Jan, 2021
#1988: Aug 22nd 2024 at 1:00:44 PM

Done. The merged pages aren't linked anywhere else, so do they need to be made into redirects or should they just be cutlisted?

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1989: Aug 22nd 2024 at 1:13:14 PM

Redirects are generally better because they keep the page histories and inbounds, so I would personally make them redirects

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Aug 22nd 2024 at 4:13:22 AM

Ayumi-chan 3rd happiest man in Connecticut from Iacon City (Experienced Trainee) Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
3rd happiest man in Connecticut
#1990: Aug 22nd 2024 at 3:46:07 PM

In Fire Emblem: Three Houses – Golden Deer (Female), Characters.Fire Emblem Three Houses Golden Deer Male and Characters.Fire Emblem Three Houses Blue Lions Male; Hilda, Lorenz and Dudue was made the top folder because, in the tropers words, "they are the retainers/rivals of their respective lords". I find this reason kinda flimsy so I want to see what other people think of it. Does it violate the "first come first serve" rule.

Edited by Ayumi-chan on Aug 22nd 2024 at 6:58:34 PM

She/Her | Currently cleaning: N/A
MB74 Since: Feb, 2024 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1991: Aug 22nd 2024 at 3:58:58 PM

Hilda and Dudue is reasonable, especially since I don’t think we’re lining them up in any order to begin with

Lorenz, though? That is quite a flimsy reason to be the top folder. Do whatever you want with it.

I’ll lift my face, and run to the sunlight.
GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#1992: Aug 23rd 2024 at 3:35:38 AM

The Characters.Teen Titans sub-pages are getting a bit unweildly, on top of all being generally short. I've put together a sandbox for merging all the sub-pages here, which would be similar to Justice League of America: Title Team and Avengers: Title Team. Thoughts?

I've also got a page for X-Men here, but I can't get that one short enough.

Edited by GateStarX on Aug 23rd 2024 at 3:35:48 AM

It's gonna be fun on the bun!
Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#1994: Aug 23rd 2024 at 11:07:49 AM

[up][up] I genuinely think we should keep the X-Men members separated by decade they joined. Those are already non CSP’s I’m putting them all together would make things so long

Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#1995: Aug 23rd 2024 at 11:11:19 AM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up]

I thought of doing a Lawrence – Diaz family page, my only problem was how late that family really comes together in the series. I was worried it would be spoilers, but I actually don’t have a personal problem with it and I’m totally down to do that with Miguel, Robbie, Carmen, Shannon, the grandmother and Hector.

STARCRUSHER99 The Moron from one of my unhealthy obsessions (Captain) Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Moron
#1996: Aug 23rd 2024 at 11:12:17 AM

[up][up] I also don't see the need to combine all the X-men pages - the new Sandbox is so large that editing it would be a gigantic hassle, and the shorter pages already exist anyway. When combining the page would just lead to the too-long warning anyway, the move seems to just be causing a new problem.

The Titans don't look quite as bad so I'm fine with that one but the X-Men move seems arbitrary in my opinion.

Edited by STARCRUSHER99 on Aug 23rd 2024 at 2:13:36 PM

Furygildeman Since: Nov, 2017
#1997: Aug 23rd 2024 at 11:20:03 AM

Although if it fixes the issue without having to merge all those CSP’s back maybe it works

ToonAbby Have a Death-End Thanksgiving, y'all! from Gamindustri Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Have a Death-End Thanksgiving, y'all!
#1998: Aug 23rd 2024 at 1:28:38 PM

The character page for Fred's Head have only two examples of actual context (Can't Hold His Liquor, Jerk with a Heart of Gold), one partially contextual (Fiery Redhead) and six contextless tropes. Additionally the page list only the three main characters (Fred, Fabianne, GG), whereas the show also has Fred's family, classmates and school faculty, as shown in its Wikipedia article.

"It's requested that your death ends here, now!" - Sayaka, Death end re;Quest Code Z.
impracticaltroper Since: Jan, 2022 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#1999: Aug 23rd 2024 at 3:16:35 PM

Can we condense the character pages of the I Know What You Did Last Summer film series into one page? The ones for the sequels barely have anything written on them.

GateStarX The Formatter from The Great White North Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
The Formatter
#2000: Aug 23rd 2024 at 5:57:52 PM

[up][up][up]I was working on the X-Men merged to specifically help with the CSP’s which is why I was also working on Marvel Comics: Colossus and Marvel Comics: Rachel Summers, but the rule change for CSP’s made those unfeasible. There are way too many X-Men characters, and they all switch teams like it’s a game of musical chairs. So the goal was to help consolidate the massive amount of X-Men Character Pages.

It's gonna be fun on the bun!

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