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There is a moratorium on merging character pages, so don't ask for that.

Character pages are a large chunk of the wiki, but they're often filled with problems that don't get resolved. These problems include:

  • Zero Context Examples
  • Indentation problems, including bulleting tropes under supertropes or tropeslashing
  • Spoiler tag misuse
  • A lack of alphabetization
  • Empty character folders
  • Plagiarized character descriptions
  • Misused tropes, or tropes that don't belong on character pages
  • Broken or incorrect formatting
  • References to Dummied Out content for video game characters.
  • YMMV / Trivia trope mentions

Per How to Create a Character Page, character pages should only include tropes that describe the characters. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, Unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly).

If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask about that at Are These Character Tropes.

All characters must have at least one contextualized trope for their section or folder to be visible. If you find a character that has no contextualized tropes present, comment out the entire section and add this tag:

%% As per Administrivia/HowToCreateACharacterPage, every character must have at least one listed trope that's not a Administrivia/ZeroContextExample. All characters who don't meet this requirement have been commented out. Add more tropes or add more context to any existing ZCE tropes before uncommenting them.

There is a moratorium on merging character pages, so don't ask for that.


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Edited by kory on Aug 31st 2025 at 3:59:59 AM

MB74 Since: Feb, 2024 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Keane2005 Since: Oct, 2024 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2552: Jun 19th 2025 at 11:43:23 AM

Characters.Solo Leveling South Korea and Characters.Solo Leveling Foreign Countries have plenty of empty folders between the two of them. All of them need commenting out but mentioning here so people notice.

Do we think they could be merged in some way? They are 130k and 60k bytes respectively, including commented out stuff. Though that might be too late to do something like that.

Edited by Keane2005 on Jun 19th 2025 at 7:43:48 PM

lexii from London Since: Jul, 2009
#2553: Jun 19th 2025 at 12:13:31 PM

[up]#2549 - great, on it. Thank you [tup]

Arawn999 Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#2554: Jun 19th 2025 at 12:34:57 PM

[up][up][up] Probably because them being the same character is a huge spoiler. Thats why Kumoko and Shiraori from So I'm a Spider, So What? were separated.

ForgottenJedi Since: Feb, 2011
#2555: Jun 19th 2025 at 2:16:09 PM

In regards to the Inquisitorius page, splitting them by gender feels weird. I don't even know why they are divided like that currently - someone made a unilateral change to the page awhile back when they had previously just been in numerical order. If we had the new CSP rules then I would say Grand Inquisitor or Third Sister would get their own page(s) and that would be an easy fix but who knows when those are coming.

Snowy66 Since: May, 2012
#2556: Jun 20th 2025 at 4:28:15 AM

Okay. Should they be reorganised to list them by number?

Seems like Grand Inquisitor doesn't have the byte requirement for a page of his own. He only hits 27,595 bytes.

We'd still probably have to divide the page up by groups.

Edited by Snowy66 on Jun 20th 2025 at 4:28:43 AM

bwburke94 I am mad scientist! It's so cool! from 1.048596% (Y2: Electric Boogaloo) Relationship Status: She does the things you do, but she is an IBM
I am mad scientist! It's so cool!
#2557: Jun 20th 2025 at 7:45:40 AM

[up][up][up] I was the one who split that spoilered page, and I feel that's an apt comparison. This is more of a Shiraori situation than a Darth Vader.

2025: the year it all ends?
Keane2005 Since: Oct, 2024 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
FoxyGrandpa12 Reze x Denji from New Jersey or New York (Troper Squire) Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
Reze x Denji
#2559: Jun 20th 2025 at 8:42:07 AM

[tup] the Raphael Sorel change (and BTW, can we please note what changes to make when doing a bump or [tup]; makes it easier for readers to follow)

[down] Actually I was just following the #2549.

Edited by FoxyGrandpa12 on Jun 20th 2025 at 5:03:05 AM

"Thing is, I believe that a single good movie will change your entire life." — Makima | aka Fox | he/she/they
Keane2005 Since: Oct, 2024 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2560: Jun 20th 2025 at 9:19:46 AM

Sorry about that. The original post says: Characters.Solo Leveling South Korea and Characters.Solo Leveling Foreign Countries have plenty of empty folders between the two of them. All of them need commenting out but mentioning here so people notice.

Do we think they could be merged in some way? They are 130k and 60k bytes respectively, including commented out stuff. Though that might be too late to do something like that.

For future reference; can I condense my original post down a bit so it doesn't flood the forum every time I bump it?

Edited by Keane2005 on Jun 20th 2025 at 5:20:45 PM

taotruths Live Jet Reaction (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: I sleep in a big bed with my wife.
Live Jet Reaction
#2561: Jun 20th 2025 at 9:27:48 AM

Me and lexii have started implementing the Characters.Soul Series changes, albeit a bit slowly.

Edited by taotruths on Jun 20th 2025 at 9:27:57 AM

Keane2005 Since: Oct, 2024 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2562: Jun 21st 2025 at 7:17:24 AM

Characters.Five Nights At Freddys Secret Of The Mimic has a spoiler above examples in Fiona's folder. Should I remove it immediately? And can we discuss an alternative way to get the link there without the tag? Do we unmark spoilers for her? Or just remove the spoiler tag and call it a day.

daudiffa SOIYA! from My Room Since: Nov, 2013
SOIYA!
#2563: Jun 21st 2025 at 8:18:47 AM

Since Characters.Power Rangers Recurring Characters is showing the warning at 245,028 characters, can I split off the Rangers section (135,982 characters) to a new "Power Rangers: Recurring Rangers" page?

"Your father was an average fighter, Kal-El, but he was a brilliant scientist!"
Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#2564: Jun 21st 2025 at 4:59:35 PM

pop'n music has several problems.

  • The subpages already split off are all below 40k. Combining all 3 nets us 69.1k, compared to the main page's 104k (the rest of the entries). So, the split needs to be evened out more.
  • ZCE's are everywhere. Some characters don't even have tropes.
  • The needless "under construction" drivel on the main page. (It's nuked now)

Update: Well, it's done for the most part. If there's anything I missed, go for it.

Edited by Berrenta on Jun 21st 2025 at 10:56:58 AM

Berrenta Bejeweled (she/her) (Ten years in the joint) Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Bejeweled (she/her)
#2565: Jul 1st 2025 at 1:58:34 PM

For Oz, some of the prisoner subpages are below 40k in size. Should we merge the specific groups into something like Oz Prisoner Groups?

Keane2005 Since: Oct, 2024 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2566: Jul 1st 2025 at 10:58:56 PM

Not sure on if minimum subpage length is changing with the Character page rework, but under current rules, they can be merged together.

lexii from London Since: Jul, 2009
FoxyGrandpa12 Reze x Denji from New Jersey or New York (Troper Squire) Relationship Status: Do you like me? (Yes ⎕ Definitely ⎕ Absolutely!!! ⎕)
Reze x Denji
#2568: Jul 2nd 2025 at 9:02:42 AM

Re the moratorium, group pages are technically not Character-Specific Pages and are thus fair game, so [tup].

"Thing is, I believe that a single good movie will change your entire life." — Makima | aka Fox | he/she/they
Tulightful Since: Oct, 2023
#2569: Jul 2nd 2025 at 8:18:52 PM

I created a sandbox and posted on the page's discussion tab but haven't gotten any traction on it. So thought I'd take the ask here.

The Super Mario Bros.: Allies page seems super unwieldy to me in that it starts with links to the Princesses and Toads, then lumps characters together by an ambiguous "major adventure," assorted "other friends" and then lists a bunch of incidental and one off NPC by 3D Mario platformers only.

I put together this cleaned up version that sorts them more by how they tend to be sorted on the official website or character select screens, also order of prominence and origin in the main series. Sandbox Here.

Whether this stays Mario Allies or requires a page rename to like Mario Main Cast or Mario Super Stars I'm open to, but it feels like an easier way to find the leads.

We could create a notable NPC page for the kind of bottom rung characters on the existing Allies page.

Also think Yoshi could get a page to himself, or maybe himself and other rideable dinosaur related species like Birdo, Dorrie, and Plessie.

Any thoughts?

Edited by Tulightful on Jul 2nd 2025 at 8:19:29 AM

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#2570: Jul 2nd 2025 at 9:45:14 PM

I think Yoshi is too small to have his own page, since his folder only takes up around 22k bytes, while 40k is the minimum for a character-specific page.

I also think a lot of the page on the sandbox is taken up by folders that link to other pages. Some characters it makes a bit of sense, but I think most people would find their entries rather easily on other pages, so it comes off as a bit unnecessary. Like, Mario and Luigi probably don't need to be listed since they have their own page, Bowser and Bowser Jr. are more well-known for being antagonists than allies (and also have their own pages), etc.

Basically, I'd recommend only listing the characters that are already listed on the current allies page to avoid bloating the page unnecessarily.

Edited by chasemaddigan on Jul 2nd 2025 at 12:46:01 PM

DoctorSleep Since: Nov, 2013
#2571: Jul 2nd 2025 at 10:42:59 PM

The sandbox does look better organised than what we've currently got.

As for listing characters that are already on other pages, you can probably ditch the folders, images and character bios and just leave the links.

Edited by DoctorSleep on Jul 2nd 2025 at 10:43:16 AM

Tulightful Since: Oct, 2023
#2572: Jul 3rd 2025 at 12:16:43 AM

right the thing that i started to find difficult is that so many characters have their subpages. it's kind of an MCU: Avengers sprawl that even if they're part of one group, there are other factions they can be associated with.

That's why I also suggested maybe renaming the page Mario main cast, rather than mario allies.

Aisaac123 “Cause i'm a punkrocker, yes i am” from México Since: Jun, 2024 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
“Cause i'm a punkrocker, yes i am”
#2573: Jul 3rd 2025 at 12:27:26 AM

Hey, guys, someone make some massive splits on House of the Dragon - Greens, splitting FOUR characters, which do admitely, all have the 40,000 bytes + requirement, and the base pages keep 60,000 + bytes, the page was shown to have given the “too long warning” and there was talk about splitting Aemond (he is the longest out the four), but i dont know, should we merge the three others?

Edited by Aisaac123 on Jul 3rd 2025 at 2:29:47 PM

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Tulightful Since: Oct, 2023
#2574: Jul 3rd 2025 at 12:59:45 AM

^^ I removed some of the folder cruft from the Mario sandbox here: Super Mario Bros.: Allies

chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#2575: Jul 3rd 2025 at 7:28:44 AM

[up] I still kind of have issues with it. Now, you won't where Yoshi is unless you open the folders. He should have his own dedicated folder and not be listed under "Super Stars". In fact, I think the "Super Star" entries should just be done away with, since it's not really an official term and that specific grouping only refers to the "Star Children" from Yoshi's Island DS. It just feels odd to have a specific folder for them when Yoshi is the only one listed on the page.


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