This is a thread to discuss those Administrivia pages in need of a little updating- you know the ones. The ones that still cite rules we've long since changed, or the ones that don't properly cite our current standards. Some of them are even scattered in Main/!
So, this is the place to take those pages and fix them up with the help of the community.
For a list of current projects, see Outdated Administrivia Pages.
Note: This thread is not for asking mods to make one-off edits to Locked Pages, Administrivia-related or otherwise, such as requesting additions to an Example Sectionectomy index. Please use this thread
for that.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 21st 2023 at 9:12:02 AM
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Awesome ![[tup]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_up_emoticon_3268.png "[thumb up]"){kind=small}
Since you're here, thoughts on transplanting Loaded Trope Word and Trope Idea Salvage Yard to Administrivia/?
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On the former — I've not really thought much about that page in specific, but it is a page only indexed on Administrivia, so that's enough to make me want it in that namespace by default and would need an investigation to want it in a different index or namespace.
On the latter — I'm fine with it moving to Administrivia/ and would suggest that it might have overlap/subindex to Needs Wiki Magic Love as these are where NWML tropes might end up without enough love.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Moving these two pages to the Administrivia/ namespace is OK, in my opinion.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
Can we start doing crowners for whether to move things to the Administrivia namespace? It seems like part of why the decision-making process in this thread is so slow-paced is the fact that gauging consensus via posts is often kind of hard due to the slow-paced nature of posts in this thread.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jun 30th 2021 at 3:13:23 AM
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This thread kinda runs differently, right? I'm thinking just one mod go-ahead (unless another mod objects) is good enough to move. It'd take a long time to get 10 crowner votes in a low-traffic thread about policy pages.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Yeah, and when it comes to Administrivia/ it's something we really need mod fiat for, not just a few votes.
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NaNo 4328 / 50,000
I like to see several votes in favour of a move before I take action. I actually do lurk more than I post, as surprising as that may sound due to my posting history. Becoming a moderator has slightly increased my lurking tendency, in hope to balance out my new authority.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
For which one? Both?
Because Trope Idea Salvage Yard has been discussed time and time again by multiple people, such as at the TRS meta thread (mostly there, in fact), and I've never seen any disagreement to having that page be moved just like Tropes Needing TRS was (which was moved unilaterally by Septimus, making it seem less like we need consensus and more like we just need a mod to agree with us).
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For in general. I was double-checking the status of my earlier post and so the Works Page sandbox has been copied over and cut, and now I've made the move for TISY.
On the other hand, the NSTAN sandbox seems fairly well-received and nobody has spoken out against LTW, but I haven't made any further changes yet.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
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Septimus discussed moving Tropes Needing TRS on the discussion page before moving it, and at least one other mod (Berrenta) provided input on the idea. I wouldn't call it unilateral if he at least brought it up with other mods, since they work as a team (I think the only exception is handling suspensions for text-altering plugins, since that's simply a matter of making sure the plugin is either disabled for TV Tropes or uninstalled entirely).
Edit: Here's the discussion in question for whether to move Tropes Needing TRS to Administrivia.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 1st 2021 at 3:58:16 AM
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
I didn't know it was brought up on the discussion, so all I knew is that he'd moved it one day with (seemingly) no talk about it. But that's the risk when you use normal discussion pages. Things get overlooked.
Either way, I didn't mean it as a negative thing against Septimus. I just didn't know the move was talked about beforehand.
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Sounds good on paper (he/him)
NamespaceGoesHere.Title Goes Here was fixed. Just thought I'd mention that because I don't think anyone else mentioned it.
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I'm helping!
A low-priority update, but Troping Under the Influence, written in 2013 and not substantially updated since then, could use a bit of polish to bring it up to modern standards.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Veteran Editor IV
Maybe, but honestly. I think the page looks fine as is right now, it explains the principles well enough and the style seems acceptable.
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I'm helping!
The main issue catching our eye is the "if an article created under the influence turns out to be So Bad, It's Horrible, it can be nominated for the Cut List" bit, honestly. If we recall correctly (and hey, shouldn't this be on Timeline.TV Tropes?) the Main namespace lock happened after this article's creation, making that particular issue a lot less likely to happen.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Veteran Editor IV
One can always make a shit work article or a subpage under the influence, though admittedly, that seems to be a bit uncommon. (Agreed that the Main/ namespace lock could be mentioned on the timeline, but I'm not certain anyone knows a relatively precise timeframe for when it was implemented.)
Edited by Piterpicher on Jul 7th 2021 at 9:44:47 PM
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❀ Mint, Nuts, and Waffle ❀
So... Author Existence Failure has been renamed to Died During Production. On Administrivia.Text Formatting Rules, in the Comments folder, it mentions the no-longer-existing trope name. Should it be kept or removed?
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Veteran Editor IV
Maybe replace it with some other trope? Here's my idea (based on Unperson)
This editor has been %Unpersoned!%This editor has been !
%%This editor has been Unpersoned!Currently mostly inactive. An incremental game I tested: https://galaxy.click/play/176 (Gods of Incremental)
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Could work, since Unperson is about the whole record of a person's existence that gets erased.
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Veteran Editor IV
Thank you for the feedback. Swapped it in.
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Needs a Redirect was apparently written back when anyone could create a page in Main/ and Fan Myopic trope names were accepted.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I think we should just redirect Administrivia.Needs A Redirect to Administrivia.Creating New Redirects, since the latter page is more detailed and takes the Locked Pages thread into account.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Jul 25th 2021 at 8:09:07 AM
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Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
Hey, should we update Wick again? There's been concerns brought up at TRS that a lot of "not thriving tropes" aren't on the list because they're problem pages but because they're Forgotten Tropes or tropes for less-troped mediums, like advertising.
We could always make a note that makes an exception for pages like these, which just can't naturally collect more tropes, to save them from being purged in the TRS effort unless absolutely necessary.
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All I was waiting for was a decent enough "What does it get replaced with?"
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.