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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#226: Oct 12th 2020 at 5:12:49 PM

They already did a Justice League/Whedon reference this season, we probably wont see one again.

Like I don't expect to see another Endgame reference either in season 3.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#227: Oct 12th 2020 at 5:18:27 PM

NVM, double post.

Edited by ArthurEld on Oct 12th 2020 at 5:18:49 AM

KJMackley Since: Jan, 2001
#228: Oct 12th 2020 at 5:35:37 PM

Given the movie was a minor subplot already, I don't expect a full episode follow-up but a brief gag is certainly possible.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#230: Oct 13th 2020 at 7:06:23 PM

I mean, it wasn't even in the comics. It was just an implication, not an actual depiction of it happening.

I'm guessing Black Noir (assuming he recovers), won't jam his thumb up Hughie's ass either. 99% sure.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#231: Oct 13th 2020 at 8:57:48 PM

Isn't Homelander a homophobe in the comics?

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ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#232: Oct 13th 2020 at 9:29:51 PM

...kind of?

But he's also implied to be a Depraved Bisexual.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#233: Oct 14th 2020 at 1:46:05 AM

comics!Homelander seems to operate on the theory that in a same-sex relationship the top is totes not gay, but the bottom is. Which IIRC seemed to be the view in ancient Greek and Roman societies too.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#234: Oct 15th 2020 at 8:50:42 PM

Okay some news.

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-boys-season-3-begins-filming-in-2021-first-episode-to-focus-on-soldier-boy

Season 3 will begin filming in early 2021. And the script of the first episode is titled Payback, revealing that Soldier Boy's (and comic Stormfront) team will be the focus of the episode, being about introducing the members of the team as the "Seven before the Seven" and the overall history of the shows setting.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 15th 2020 at 8:51:55 AM

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#235: Oct 17th 2020 at 9:38:01 AM

So the Not-Captain America worked with a literal nazi. I wonder how they're going to explore that? EDIT: Nevermind, I misread, that was only in the comics

Edited by DeadlyAssassin on Oct 17th 2020 at 8:10:26 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#236: Oct 17th 2020 at 12:20:30 PM

Other interesting details, Homelander is not gonna rape Soulja Boy. They are cutting that out entirely.

And also we are finally getting a Herogasm this season. Man thats gonna be brutal.

[up] Granted since the Payback episode is apparently taking place before the first 2 seasons, they could have Stormfront as a member of the team back then.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 17th 2020 at 12:21:23 PM

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jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#237: Oct 18th 2020 at 7:29:11 AM

Although presumably (depending on just how far we've flashed back) she would be "Liberty" instead of Stormfront then.

(thank you for the correction.)

Edited by jakobitis on Oct 18th 2020 at 6:08:28 PM

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#238: Oct 18th 2020 at 7:54:55 AM

[up] Just Liberty.

Also, based on what they mentioned in the series about Vought "moving her around", I assume she changed her identity a few more times before showing up as Stormfront.

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caivu Since: Sep, 2014
#240: Oct 19th 2020 at 6:32:48 PM

[up] Everything I see about that Kripke dude makes me like him less and less. But I guess it does make sense he'd be attracted to something like The Boys if he already had such a poor understanding of superheroes.

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VengefulBale Lucina from Bale's Base (recovering) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#241: Oct 19th 2020 at 7:07:23 PM

Funny how he considers soldiers inherently better. When answering to a higher power is not automatically any better if the higher powers are corrupt as hell, which most of the time they are

Edit: Yeah, I just pulled out nonsense here, sorry. Made more clear what I meant

Edited by VengefulBale on Oct 19th 2020 at 9:27:42 AM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#242: Oct 19th 2020 at 7:21:44 PM

His point is that soldiers have established rules they have to follow and higher powers they have to answer to while superheroes are only answerable to themselves.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#243: Oct 19th 2020 at 7:23:18 PM

Wait I don’t think Kripke said the thing about the soldiers, that was someone else.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 19th 2020 at 7:23:29 AM

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VengefulBale Lucina from Bale's Base (recovering) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated
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#244: Oct 19th 2020 at 7:29:05 PM

To Be Lawful or Good is a trope for a reason. Just because someone else calls the shots on what soldiers do, doesn't makes them automatically any better than an independent party....

Edited by VengefulBale on Oct 19th 2020 at 9:29:12 AM

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#245: Oct 19th 2020 at 7:35:28 PM

Just Following Orders was used as an excuse using the Same logic.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#246: Oct 19th 2020 at 7:35:39 PM

[up][up][up]Larry Hama said that. I just pointed out that he wasn't the only one to say so when describing the fascist underpinnings (and it's worth noting Hama was an EOD technician in Vietnam).

Edited by Beatman1 on Oct 19th 2020 at 10:36:27 AM

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#247: Oct 20th 2020 at 2:55:42 AM

Wasn't Superman originally conceived as basically a giant middle finger to Nazi ideology? I won't deny the allegory in this season has been pretty well-done, a lot of the time even skewing disturbingly close to reality. But this idea that super-heroes are inherently fascist seems an awful take, especially since half of the show seems to be a DeconReconSwitch towards that sort of cynicism

Edited by Xopher001 on Oct 20th 2020 at 12:58:01 PM

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#248: Oct 20th 2020 at 2:59:59 AM

especially since half of the show seems to be a Decon-Recon Switch towards that sort of cynicism

How so?

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#249: Oct 20th 2020 at 3:10:32 AM

Mostly with Butcher. Throughout the series we've seen him go from this cynical asshole who thinks all supes are inherently evil, to coming around to working with supes to take down Vought. And this culminates in the end of Season 2 when he changes his mind and does not double cross Rebecca and Ryan, and actively steps in to protect Ryan despite his initial misgivings about him. Maybe not a complete DeconReconSwitch, but it's strange that the writers seem to completely agree with Butcher even though in the show they seem to want to highlight how much of an asshole he is and that we shouldnt agree with his philosophy.

djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#250: Oct 21st 2020 at 12:59:15 PM

[up] I mean, there's a difference between hating "supes" as... an "ethnic group", let's call it, and hating superheroes/vigilantes, as in, a "job".

Edited by djoki996 on Oct 21st 2020 at 1:02:30 AM


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