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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#2976: Dec 22nd 2024 at 9:11:27 AM

Alright, Season 3 premiere!

Was that Marc or Jake in the front seat? Kinda hard to tell, since the subtitles refer to him as Spector, but he seems to have Lockley's Brooklyn Rage.

The time constraints really hurt this episode, as everything really felt rushed. And I dunno if it's just me, but the mech fighting...kinda seemed slow and sluggish. You can tell the VA's had to compensate with their fighting lines and grunts.

Character-wise though, this was really fun! It's nice seeing Sam-as-Cap believe in Bruce, Monica as his second command, and everyone else representing different parts of the world becoming Avengers. Also neat to see Nakia in a What If episode.

I also loved seeing some more relations between Bruce and the Hulk, and his final fate at the end. A perfect Bittersweet Ending.

So far, I think this might be my favorite premiere episode of the three seasons. Excited to see what's coming next!

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#2977: Dec 22nd 2024 at 10:17:18 AM

Giant robots are always good.

That's all I was here for, and I didn't ask for more, so Rob is satisfied.

One Strip! One Strip!
KRider Desire Grand Prix Entry from Origin System Since: Feb, 2021
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#2978: Dec 22nd 2024 at 6:46:43 PM

Apex Hulk and his Gamma Beasts is pretty much the teaser shown at the end of Shin Godzilla where there were multiple humanlike Godzillas about to bud out of Shin Godzilla's tail before he got flash frozen. Too bad the rest of the episode wasn't animated the same way as the cartoon in the beginning. Cartoon Tony rocked the Dr Nambu look.

Set! Avenge! "Henshin." Black General! Bujin Sword! Ready, Fight!
Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2979: Dec 23rd 2024 at 4:53:32 AM

Just watched the second episode, I loved it. I think it's one of the best episodes in the entire series. Curious premise, good voice acting, the jokes land well and I dig all the pokes at the fourth wall. And all four main characters (Agatha, Kingo, Howard, Jarvis) are great.

By the way, lorewise, this episode pretty much clears it up — Celestials are not multiversal, they can have variants (like Tiamut) and are tied to their universes. The Watcher is well above them in terms of power.

Quantum Realm is not multiversal as well. I wonder if Dormammu and his Dark Dimension are singular.

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#2980: Dec 23rd 2024 at 7:46:55 AM

Is it just me, or does Mega-Hulk kinda looks like Devil Hulk looks in Banner's mind space?

It's nice seeing Sam-as-Cap believe in Bruce

In the comics Sam also has a soft spot for Hulk because he was friends with Sam's nephew Jim Wilson.

Quantum Realm is not multiversal as well. I wonder if Dormammu and his Dark Dimension are singular.

He's supposed to be, but it might be different in MCU.

Edited by Cortez on Dec 23rd 2024 at 10:50:02 AM

generation81 Since: Aug, 2021
#2981: Dec 23rd 2024 at 7:58:23 AM

Wasn't a fan of ep 2. Agathas's Heel–Face Turn came out of nowhere even given the limited runtime.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#2982: Dec 23rd 2024 at 9:53:07 AM

Quantum Realm is not multiversal as well. I wonder if Dormammu and his Dark Dimension are singular.

Well, Strange Supreme did defeat a different version of Dormammu. The Quantum Realm, I'm not so sure about, given Zombie Janet is a thing. Could be multiversal, or it could just be two different variants of Janet were in the Quantum Realm at the same time.

Anyways, I liked this episode. Was fun seeing everyone go all in on 40s glamor. Not my favorite episode, but considering it's supposed to be a fun episode, I can't complain. Also, love Howard Stark's energy.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#2983: Dec 23rd 2024 at 10:07:50 AM

I feel like every time he shows up, he’s gotten more manic

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#2985: Dec 23rd 2024 at 10:30:26 AM

I had very similar thoughts

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Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#2986: Dec 23rd 2024 at 12:44:09 PM

[up]x4 Oh, I forgot about that. So who is left operating on the Multiversal level in the MCU? Only Loki, the TVA, the Council of Kangs (rip) and the Watchers? I really hope we learn more about it in the grand finale of What If.

They confirmed it at the end of Loki season 2, when Mobius and B-15 discuss the report on the events of Quantumania. There is a separate Quantum Realm "adjacent" to each universe.

Edited by Asherinka on Dec 23rd 2024 at 4:08:46 AM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#2987: Dec 23rd 2024 at 2:32:12 PM

Shit. You know what story I wish What If could've covered, but never will?

Shuri choosing to kill Namor. Think about the outcome of that!

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#2988: Dec 23rd 2024 at 4:02:55 PM

I actually don't remember the events of Wakanda forever very well.

Really REALLY enjoyed today's Golden Era Hollywood episode. My favourite What Ifs are definitely the ones we're two different casts of characters are shoved together, much more so than the genre mash up ones like we got yesterday.

It does feel like the logical endpoint of Agatha's MO, and she certainly suits being a diva. Kingo was also a lot of fun and I truly do believe that he wouldn't make a big fuss about giving up his purpose once he learns the details of it. Him appealing to Agatha's vanity and it working also feels true to me, even if it had to happen very fast.

Cool seeing Arashim actually doing something.

All the talk about a sequel feels bitter sweet given that The Eternals and What If are definitely not getting more installments in the foreseeable future after this season.

Howard is definitely on cocaine.

LadyBlackwood The show must go on from Wouldn't you like to know? Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
The show must go on
#2989: Dec 23rd 2024 at 4:20:17 PM

Agathas's Heel–Face Turn came out of nowhere even given the limited runtime.
It works for me because Agatha may be an unrepentant villain but her MO is usually screwing over and/or killing individuals or small groups of people, she doesn't seem like a 'destroy the world and remake it in my image' kind of person so it doesn't surprise me that she would choose stardom over that. I see it as more a change in goals than a redemption. Agatha is probably still a terrible person but she'd rather be an actress than destroy the world.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#2990: Dec 23rd 2024 at 4:46:54 PM

[up]I can buy that.

But Damn. Is this version of Agatha the first person to throw hands with a damned Celestial and win? Cause I don't think anyone's ever gotten in a straight up fist fight with one of them, but even I've never seen every comic that's had them in it.

It also makes a lot of sense that the Eternals would know about her, since they likely predate her. I'm shocked she was able to take most of them out before hand though.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#2991: Dec 23rd 2024 at 4:50:01 PM

Off-screening is the most powerful combat technique. Just ask Squirrel Girl

Anyway. In terms of fighting Celestials, Knull decapitated one in the comics. I don’t know if that counts, it’s not strictly punching.

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#2993: Dec 23rd 2024 at 6:10:21 PM

I love how UNHINGED Howard was this episode. Just totally manic.

You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#2994: Dec 23rd 2024 at 6:59:37 PM

It borders on Flanderization, but his energy is just too infectious! I love just how different Dominic Cooper is as Howard compared to John Slattery. They're both great, and it's fun trying to bridge their performances mentally.

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#2995: Dec 23rd 2024 at 7:04:35 PM

The whole episode may be the most insane thing Marvel has ever put out and yes I know Deadpool 3 was earlier this year.

It makes me wish these episodes were longer. I do wish that about most of these episodes but this could have been a whole 90 minute movie.

You’re Gonna Carry That Weight.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#2996: Dec 23rd 2024 at 7:14:13 PM

I can't disagree.

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#2997: Dec 23rd 2024 at 11:39:48 PM

I find Agatha's actions believable. Slightly more than Kingo's. I know she's a villain but she's basically in "why be a villain when you're already winning" position. She got a good deal without taking over or destroying the world. Meanwhile, Kingo was one guy who decided to sit out rebelling against Celestials in the movie. So now he got a promotion and...end up turning on them? I guess he was missing 3-movie deal in the film. I know to many this is Author's Saving Throw because they didn't like Kingo just leaving for the finale, especially when he's one guy who brings a human sidekick to the story so you'd think he would be invested in humans but it's funny to claim that Kingo was out of character in hist first appearance. I suppose you could argue that the situation is different because in Eternals he didnt want to pick a side in war against fellow Eternals and besides ultimately he chose to leave rather than support his masters, so neutrality is his first choice when it's an option but when push comes to shove he'd pick humans over Celestials.

Edited by Sunchet on Dec 23rd 2024 at 11:43:40 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#2998: Dec 24th 2024 at 1:39:43 AM

I shouldn't be up this late, but I watched episode 3. Honestly, this episode was really fun to watch. Loved the Bucky-Alexei chemistry that we're probably gonna get more of in Thunderbolts. Also, wow was not expecting Obediah Stane of all people to show up. And given what he says about Howard and Maria in this episode...if he arranged that in the Sacred Timeline too, shit, that guy is more evil than I thought.

I loved seeing Goliath in this episode too. Just serious enough to be a threat to the heroes, but just fun enough to be engaging.

But most importantly...HOLY FUCKING SHIT, RANGER MORALES?!? IS THAT WHO I THINK IT IS???? EPIC FREAKOUT MOMENT.

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#2999: Dec 24th 2024 at 3:19:49 AM

Hey, if nowhere else considering how their movie failed, at least we can see the Eternals meet characters from the rest of the MCU here.

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#3000: Dec 24th 2024 at 1:18:01 PM

Obadiah Stane working as a traitor with the Soviet Union and Hydra would be entirely in character since he was also working with the Ten Rings.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Dec 24th 2024 at 1:18:15 AM

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