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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#276: Aug 17th 2021 at 8:36:39 AM

My guess is Steve took Peggy's place in the alternate Earth and founded it alongside Howard. Which also brings up the cool possibility that an old Steve was a mentor to young Tony and could have passed the Iron Man mantle down to him.

Edited by Kostya on Aug 17th 2021 at 11:36:58 AM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#277: Aug 17th 2021 at 8:47:17 AM

It's seems more in character for Tony to create a new suit to show up his dad and Steve didn't call himself Iron Man in any case.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#278: Aug 17th 2021 at 9:37:53 AM

Yeah, but this is a Tony who wouldn't be jealous of Steve due to Steve not being the one who was a Super Soldier.

Hell, maybe since the circumstances were different, he's closer to Steve than to his own dad.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#279: Aug 17th 2021 at 9:50:39 AM

[up][up]I suspect this Tony would be less of an asshole growing up. I also don't expect him to use the same suit. He could make his own and take on the role from Steve. He's never called Iron Man but I suspect he would be if we explored the universe more.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#280: Aug 17th 2021 at 10:57:51 AM

You know, speaking of this film and its relationship to Captain Marvel, I feel like that universe's Carol Danvers would've faced less stigma growing up for wanting to do tomboyish things, and probably looks up to Peggy as a role model. That would be really nice to see.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
magnet_terp Since: Apr, 2014
#281: Aug 17th 2021 at 11:01:08 AM

What If Ep 2 teaser showing up on Facebook now…. I notice the introductory imagery is taking heavily from the TVA’s sacred timeline monitors.

“You morons grabbed the wrong kid!” And “I’m a huge fan of your work!”

Ookamikun This is going to be so much fun. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
This is going to be so much fun.
#282: Aug 17th 2021 at 1:06:26 PM

Was the sexist military guy the same character Tommy Lee Jones played in the movie? Because that's one massive character serve.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#283: Aug 17th 2021 at 1:07:24 PM

Different character

I think Tommy Lee Jones’ character got shot in the altered timeline

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#284: Aug 17th 2021 at 1:13:23 PM

Tommy Lee Jones played Colonel Phillips, who died in the Captain Carter timeline's bomb attack. The sexist guy is Agent/Colonel Flynn, played by Bradley Whitford and who first appeared in the Agent Carter One-Shot. But he hadn't appeared in anything else until now, and since the events of the Agent Carter tv series had passed when the short was set, some weren't even sure if his character was still canon anymore.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Aug 17th 2021 at 1:15:56 AM

FGHIK Since: Aug, 2013
#285: Aug 17th 2021 at 3:58:44 PM

Ah, that's good. Colonel Phillips was an asshole, but at least he was a likable asshole. He didn't seem sexist, especially not for 40s US army standards.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#286: Aug 17th 2021 at 6:10:12 PM

I wonder how Phillips would've felt about Steve being in that Humongous Mecha Howard built for him...

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
magnet_terp Since: Apr, 2014
#288: Aug 18th 2021 at 12:46:57 AM

Freeze Frame bonus for ep 2! T’challa’s ravager ship is named “Mandela”

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#289: Aug 18th 2021 at 1:38:24 AM

There seems to be a running idea that there wouldnt be a Winter Soldier in the Carterverse, but I dont see how that tracks. Bucky wouldnt become the Winter Soldier, but that doesnt mean they just wouldnt go through with the program. Heck, Bucky wasnt even the only one. What's stopping Hydra from waking up a different operative?

Edited by Zeromaeus on Aug 18th 2021 at 4:38:43 AM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#290: Aug 18th 2021 at 2:07:57 AM

Because they didn't capture anyone of note.

Anyway, onto episode 2. T'Challa really made the universe better.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#291: Aug 18th 2021 at 2:09:26 AM

In the "main" timeline it's suggested that part of Howard's obsession with recreating the Super Soldier serum and his neglect of Tony as a father is due to his guilt over Steve's disappearance (and Agent Carter heavily implied that Howard was motivated by a lifelong infatuation with Steve). That's clearly not the case here, unless he develops said infatuation over Peggy instead.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#292: Aug 18th 2021 at 4:06:00 AM

Because they didn't capture anyone of note.

None of the other Winter Soldiers killed by Zemo were "notable" though. There could very well have been Winter Soldiers in the Caotain Carter reality.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#293: Aug 18th 2021 at 4:08:02 AM

Episode 2:

Opening with an alternative version of the GOTG opening scene is a nice touch

Korath fanboying over T'Challa!Star Lord is certainly different.

Seems like this is pretty damn different. T'Challa is still on good terms with Yondu, and they're actively doing good. Guess T'Challa was a really good influence on the Ravagers.

T'Challa's ship is the Mandela. Keeping it being named after an Earth person, but with a bit more decorum.

So the Ravagers just majorly messed up and got completely the wrong kid. The transition does feel a bit rushed here though.

Wait what. Star-T'Challa talked Thanos out of his plan! And saved Drax's planet. This is feeling a bit too good to be true, something's got to go wrong.

And Nebula's a blonde. Sure.

Damnit Youndu. Just can't keep a simple found family dynamic.

The implications of The Collector's arsenal are... intense.

Yaka arrow, no!!!

The Ravagers going to Wakanda is sweet. I wonder what happens after this.

Oooh... Ego still eventually finds Peter. That's one heck of a sequel hook for a story we might never actually get.

All in all, a pretty fun episode.

And of course, dedicated to Chadwick Boseman. RIP.

Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#294: Aug 18th 2021 at 4:24:15 AM

I honestly feel bad for Peter. No one will ever forgive him Infinity War, in Endgame when everyone gets to have moment I can remember like 3 scenes with him and he's a butt of a joke in each of them (the one where Nebula and Rhodey knock him out and call him an idiot being probably the least pathetic) and now we get What If somebody else got to be Star-Lord and just...was so much better at it. Like truly amazing. Cursed be our timeline for having such a loser Star-Lord.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#295: Aug 18th 2021 at 4:47:55 AM

The fucking Noodle Incident of T'Challa talking Thanos out of his plans kills me.

Ohmknight _(o)_ from the End Since: Jul, 2020 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#296: Aug 18th 2021 at 4:57:28 AM

T'challa became like the Steven Universe of that particular timeline.

The Final Name
magnumtropus Since: Aug, 2020
#297: Aug 18th 2021 at 5:01:01 AM

How did T'Challa get the Star Lord name? Wasn't it a name Quill got from his mother?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#298: Aug 18th 2021 at 6:21:44 AM

In this timeline it probably has to do with him being royalty. Although I would have preferred if they named him Star Panther or something.

Asherinka from Winterfell Since: Jan, 2018
#299: Aug 18th 2021 at 6:35:00 AM

[up][up][up][up]I was thinking the same thing. They just made Peter Quill way less forgivable than he was before.

I liked "good" Thanos more than I should have. But his transformation still feels a bit too easy if not unrealistic.

Overall, I liked this episode more than the first one.

Edited by Asherinka on Aug 18th 2021 at 6:09:34 PM

Of all the things at risk, the loss of an objective reality is perhaps the most dangerous.
Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#300: Aug 18th 2021 at 6:42:52 AM

I enjoy this for the absurdity of good Thanos and Nebula with hair.

The legend has returned.

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