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Lately, we've been having some trouble with pages in the Roleplay/ namespace, and much debate over how to handle said pages. Problems include:

  • Auto-Erotic Troping
  • Major problems with example context
  • The difficulty cleaning up or verifying the content on said pages, often due to these roleplays being private or otherwise inaccessible

In this thread, we will discuss and clean-up these works so they conform to the rules of the wiki, and can be understood by any reader regardless of whether or not they take part in the roleplay.

Here are some useful sandboxes for our cleanup effort:

  • How to Clean a Roleplay - a sandbox guide to determining availability of, locating, and cleaning up pages to roleplays.
  • Roleplay Cleanup Thread is used for sorting pages after we examine them, whether they've been cleaned, cut, or shelved, and anything in-between.
  • Roleplay Cleanup Thread Indexing is used after a cleaned and verified page has been added to the first sandbox. We try to add these pages to our indexes, with the plan to create actual indexes later on.

Edited by Tabs on Mar 15th 2022 at 11:27:21 AM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#1026: May 3rd 2021 at 11:45:19 PM

But not enough good tropes.

[up][up][up][up] Wait, was "oh god oh jesus" part of the description?

Edited by Tabs on May 3rd 2021 at 11:46:42 AM

Serac she/her (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#1027: May 4th 2021 at 7:52:06 AM

[up] It was the entirety of the description.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (10,238/50,000)
#1028: May 4th 2021 at 11:17:46 AM

Can confirm, that's all it was.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#1029: Jun 26th 2021 at 11:13:59 AM

The Black Sand Bar is a mess to behold. It's full of first person writing, natter, justifying edits, usage of Magnificent Bastard that's just "(Character name). Too many example to list", ZCE, bad indentation, troping the users themselves with tropes like Wangst and What An Idiot, and more.

The latest three edits are from October 2012note , 2015note , and 2019note . Everything else is from no later than September 2012, most of which doesn't show up in the edit history, despite the history going back to December 2011. And boy, does it show.

Edited by Shadow8411 on Jun 26th 2021 at 11:32:03 AM

ChillyBeanBAM Whaam! Whacka wow! (Apprentice)
Whaam! Whacka wow!
#1030: Jul 8th 2021 at 8:54:11 AM

[up] Actually, all of the other BSB subpages (including the main one) are pretty bad as well.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#1031: Jul 28th 2021 at 8:37:27 PM

Found Mirai Yume Academy via transgender dewicking, and oh it is a mess. ZCEs out the wazoo on all pages - yes, all. It's (probably needlessly) spilt into many work and sub pages regarding the various "rounds" of the roleplay. Each of the character pages also has "Note that this is limited to characters whose creators explicitly allowed them to be on this page, and is by no means a comprehensive list." in its description, which reeks of The Fic May Be Yours, but the Trope Page Is Ours.

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Jul 28th 2021 at 11:39:52 AM

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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#1032: Jul 30th 2021 at 2:47:16 PM

Can we move those to the main work article? They can easily fit.

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#1033: Aug 6th 2021 at 4:30:39 PM

And Reaching Despair. Sigh.

ZCEs all over and - wait, the tumblr doesn't even go anywhere anymore??

Edit: oh for fuck's sake

Reunions: Dark Summer. Hasn't been updated since 2011, but is on site. What do?

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Aug 6th 2021 at 7:33:19 AM

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Walkinshadows Since: Jun, 2012
#1034: Sep 30th 2021 at 1:54:35 AM

[up] Cleaned up the ZCEs. Also found a working link to the Tumblr. If a blog is inactive for a long period, Tumblr tacks "-blog" onto the end of the name.

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#1035: Sep 30th 2021 at 11:24:10 AM

([up] Oh. I was wondering who "stole" my old account...)

For anyone still browsing the namespace index to clean things, it's probably useful to keep adding pages to the "cleaned" portion of Roleplay Cleanup Thread.

The Sky Tides:

  • Trope: Many characters are this. Nuff said.
  • Trope: Many characters are this. Nuff said.
  • Trope: Many characters are this. Nuff said.
  • Trope: Many characters are this...

Edited by Tabs on Sep 30th 2021 at 12:58:26 PM

NervousShark Since: Mar, 2015
#1036: Oct 23rd 2021 at 8:18:39 AM

Does Fading Masquerade exist anywhere online? I was going to clean up its character sheet when I looked at the main page and realized that it didn't have any links to it. Additionally, the description makes it sound like this was someone's home game that they decided to create a page for. A google search didn't turn up anything that I could see.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#1037: Nov 2nd 2021 at 10:22:46 AM

Nope, it doesn't seem to exist online except on TV Tropes. It should be moved to the Darth Wiki or cut.

Edit: I made a page for it on the Darth Wiki and merged the content of the character page with it; the main page and its subpages have been added to the cutlist.

Edited by Orbiting on Nov 2nd 2021 at 1:34:15 PM

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#1038: Nov 2nd 2021 at 11:52:32 PM

Found a couple Discord RP pages; I've moved their content to the Darth Wiki and cutlisted the main pages.

I also found Pinnacle Academy, which is on Discord but has publicly available records of its content, so... I guess it can stay on the main wiki?

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#1039: Nov 3rd 2021 at 5:05:17 PM

[up] That's... probably good enough. They're even formatted.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#1040: Nov 3rd 2021 at 7:42:16 PM

Found some more Discord RPs. I've moved their content (+ merged their character pages if they have them) onto the Darth Wiki and sent them to the cutlist.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#1041: Nov 28th 2021 at 4:34:05 PM

More RPs moved to Darth Wiki and added to the cutlist:

Edited by Orbiting on Nov 29th 2021 at 11:40:00 AM

NervousShark Since: Mar, 2015
#1042: Nov 29th 2021 at 1:22:23 PM

So... I recently discovered Roleplay.Sengoku Horizon. It's a weird page. The link to the roleplay does work (although the site itself has tiny text that I can barely read), but there are no tropes on the main page or the characters page.

Honestly, there are so many things wrong with that I don't quite know where to start. There are weird (and incorrect) instructions to editors, such as "If you find yourself tagging a trope for a specific character, consider using their character page instead," which isn't how character pages work. The only page that has any tropes is Characters.Sengoku Horizon Takeda Clan, which only has tropes regarding one character and some of the strangest formatting I've ever seen.

It was created and edited by one person (scandalizer) who hasn't edited anything in a year. While I was looking at their edit history, I noticed something else about the pages: they've created a character page for every clan that appears in the roleplay and linked none of them anywhere else. None of them have any tropes or characters from what I can tell (I really didn't feel like going through all of them and checking), just a short description of the clan.

So... what should we do? Should we just cut all the pages? Move the tropes from Characters.Sengoku Horizon Takeda Clan onto the main page? What about all the clan descriptions? Please help!!

Edit: Oh, and the main page isn't indexed anywhere, just the characters page.

Edited by NervousShark on Nov 29th 2021 at 4:23:59 AM

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#1043: Nov 29th 2021 at 3:45:46 PM

Oh boy...

I'm going to list the pages for the roleplay here, in order to keep track of them (pulled from scandalizer's edit history, since most aren't linked anywhere else):

The one page with tropes, Characters.Sengoku Horizon Takeda Clan, does not provide any context beyond "this happens" or "she is this": the roleplay therefore lacks the minimum of 3 tropes with sufficient context to remain on the site, and can be cut as a stub page along with the character page.

Additionally, from what I can tell, the descriptions on each page are copied word for word from their descriptions on the roleplay site, which makes things a lot simpler in terms of clean-up. All of those pages are effectively plagiarism, which the mod team has been cracking down on pretty hard lately. The pages should all be cut (as they lack any non-plagiarized content), and I'll write a report on Ask The Tropers to let the mods know. Even if scandalizer is currently inactive, the mods will want to know that someone is making dozens of pages with plagiarized content.

Edited by Orbiting on Nov 29th 2021 at 6:46:19 AM

Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#1044: Nov 29th 2021 at 4:57:50 PM

That looks more like a checklist than a trope list. And you're right. They're all ZCE.

NervousShark Since: Mar, 2015
#1046: Nov 29th 2021 at 11:30:06 PM

[up][up][up]Thanks! I actually didn't realize the clan descriptions were all plagiarized. (I didn't really explore the roleplay site due to the tiny font.) The main reason I was hesitant to cut all those subpages was because I thought maybe the descriptions could be salvaged and moved to the main page, but since they were all copied, we don't have to worry about that.

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#1047: Nov 30th 2021 at 6:26:38 PM

Happy to help! Thank you for bringing it up and linking the edit history- otherwise most of the pages would probably still be floating around after the main pages were cut.

More RPs moved and cutlisted:

Orbiting Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
#1048: Dec 4th 2021 at 1:24:03 PM

Another haul of cutlisted RPs (pages moved to the Darth Wiki unless otherwise noted):

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#1050: Dec 5th 2021 at 9:57:43 PM

Is it the entire thing readable? Cause I think that might be the requirement?

Shadow?

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