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Jun 28th 2019 at 11:14:18 AM

Following the events of Avengers: Endgame, Spider-Man must step up to take on new threats in a world that has changed forever.

Details of the movie have started popping, this thread is to contain the spoilers.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Jun 28th 2019 at 12:39:57 PM

First credits scene is Mysterio (who died in the movie proper) sent doctored footage to JJJ played by J.K. Simmons that implicates Spider-Man and reveals to the whole world that he's Peter Parker.

Second is Fury and Hill being revealed to be Skrulls. Specifically Talos and his wife filling in for the real Fury while he's on vacation.

Edited by LordVatek on Jun 28th 2019 at 3:57:49 PM

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Jun 28th 2019 at 12:49:05 PM

So that's what that pre-production concept art from Captain Marvel ended up being.

Rynnec Killing is my business Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Killing is my business
Jun 28th 2019 at 3:50:24 PM

Has the multiverse being complete bunk been confirmed yet? Because that's a real dick move if true.

"I'll show you fear, there is no hell, only darkness." My twitter
Jun 28th 2019 at 3:52:39 PM

Just because Mysterio lied doesn't mean it can't be true.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
Not really a lord of anything
Jun 28th 2019 at 4:04:03 PM

Multiverse is real (as shown in Doctor Strange and Endgame) but Mysterio doesn't know about it.

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GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
Jun 28th 2019 at 7:32:02 PM

So the thing that's top of my priorities:

Is Mysterio any good? How long does it take before he reveals his true colours?

Does he have a good leitmotif? If he has one at all. (I loved Vulture's)

Edited by GNinja on Jun 28th 2019 at 2:32:34 PM

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Dirtyblue929 Armchair Developer from A Very Deep Hole Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
Armchair Developer
Jun 28th 2019 at 8:28:47 PM

Clicked this thread, saw J.K. Simmons coming back, immediately stopped reading and covered the screen with my hands cause HOO BOY THATS ALL I NEEDED TO HEAR BABY OPENING DAY HERE I COME

"Oh no, I'm not brave enough for politics."
Jun 28th 2019 at 8:37:19 PM

[up]x6

please don't lead into a One More Day adaptation

please

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Cortez Bien chicky starr. from Puerto Rico
Bien chicky starr.
Jun 29th 2019 at 5:49:13 AM

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Unlikely, he doesn't have a marriage to sell.

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Ultimatum ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
Jun 29th 2019 at 6:52:48 AM

More worried that we're moving closer to Miles, and that potentially means for Peter.

dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Jun 29th 2019 at 10:44:31 AM

Read this, and I'm like, "Uh, people probably called him out for stealing everything from Miles for his 'Peter' OC and he's scrambling to do damage control."

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Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Zappy Zappy Lady
Jun 29th 2019 at 11:18:47 AM

Mysterio sounds like a lame Syndrome who is butthurt at Tony. Seems kinda unmemorable besides the ending.

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HailMuffins Degenerate Supreme from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
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Jun 29th 2019 at 12:31:54 PM

[up][up]You mean the way he cherry-picked good elements from the comics to create the movie version like everyone else does?

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Weirdguy149 The sleeping royal from Galar Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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Jun 29th 2019 at 12:58:36 PM

[up][up]In that case, I wonder what would happen if Mysterio had a personality swap with Lou? Would that make for a more interesting villain?

I say, fitting time for a nap, eh what?
Mizerous Zappy Zappy Lady from Normura Land Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Zappy Zappy Lady
Jun 29th 2019 at 2:06:51 PM

Don't make him related to Stark?

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Jun 30th 2019 at 1:26:26 AM

I don't like that the plots of homecoming and far from home are both fundamentally dependant on Iron Man.

dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Jun 30th 2019 at 2:50:29 PM

[up]Yep. It's why his origin has so many holes in it. We don't even know when he got bitten by the spider/the circumstances. It's so boring and frustrating in equal measures to skip the origin because then how are we really supposed to understand the character? I don't know what motivates this Peter beyond wanting to be an Avenger for a hot 20 mins and now that that's over... what does he want?

And they've all but said Tony will function as his Uncle Ben in the MCU which is such a disservice to Uncle Ben.

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Jun 30th 2019 at 7:31:44 PM

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We know what Spidey's origin story is. All of us know.

Revisiting his origin story one more damn time would just waste time telling us something that we have been told over and over again in the past 20 years.

HailMuffins Degenerate Supreme from Ceará, Brazil Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
Degenerate Supreme
Jun 30th 2019 at 7:33:32 PM

Besides, the whole "Uncle Ben" thing has been told countless times before.

You can't blame someone of trying to do something different.

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Jul 1st 2019 at 2:40:42 AM

So I guess we're at the point where major plot details are now end credits stingers. Infinity War and Captain Marvel were straddling the line, but to basically stick Peter being framed and his identity revealed after the credits roll either means they no longer think anyone is leaving before midcredits, or they don't care about those who do knowing what the hell is going on.

dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Jul 1st 2019 at 7:31:30 AM

[up]x2 That's part of why MCU Spidey is so baffling. When did that kid take revenge for Uncle Ben's death? Does Uncle Ben even exist? What was his motivation for becoming Spider-Man then? Has he ever used his powers for personal gain?

Holland's Spidey needs some sort of pathos. Without an origin, an allusion to an origin, without a moment of truth a character cannot become the hero we expect. I'm not certain Holland's Peter Parker has reached this point. I get that people don't want to see Uncle Ben die a third time, but not referencing him by name at all so far in the series is a huge problem too.

Edited by dmcreif on Jul 1st 2019 at 9:31:57 AM

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything
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Jul 1st 2019 at 8:09:25 AM

[up]"When you can do the things that I can but you don't and then the bad things happen, they happen because of you." - Peter in Civil War.

You don't really need much more than that.

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dmcreif from Lewisburg, PA Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Jul 1st 2019 at 9:03:07 AM

I dunno, this Peter just doesn't feel like the Peter I know from the comics. His MCU characterization is the most jarring for me because he's so different. The Netflix heroes are a lot closer as far as comic characterization goes.

We deserved to see Peter punch Tony rather than the weird father figure thing they have going on in the MCU. MCU Peter weirdly never wants to hurt people. 616 Peter is always ready to kick your ass. (That's one reason I don't want to see MCU Peter ever team up with MCU Matt; he's unwilling to throw a punch, Matt would have a hard time tolerating his wisecracking attitude, and I don't think Matt would want a 16 year old dragged into Fisk's crosshairs)

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