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In Japan, Sanaki believed that Lekain alone is not responsible for the massacre. There are the people that particpated, even if they are not aware that they were being used and the people that were paid. And then Yune actually pities Lekain because she believed that his status of righteous and devotion would make him happy to the point of hurting others to get it but she reads his heart and he is still not happy about being a "chosen."
Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jan 18th 2021 at 1:14:37 AM
Does Duscur ever joins the Kingdom besides Dedue himself and his personal battalion? I recall the crew saving him from execution if you did his paralogue, but that's about it. And yeah, the death of all his people is low key solved too quickly overall.
I also agree with a new GD route being an exploration of Almyra and maybe even other nations rather than just being Silver Snow 2.0. I will forever wonder if Claude's route was initially planned to be more unique at some point, as interviews paint the initial idea of his path in a very open ended way (literally "here's a hero who schemes") compared to SS, CF and AM.
Isn't the Empire technically located at the south of Fódlan though?
As in, the Japanese script or the extended one? I recall the english version of Radiant Dawn localized the vanilla/easy mode script only, which reportedly is missing a ton of meat story-wise.
Edited by Blackress on Jan 18th 2021 at 3:21:50 PM
You know what's funny. The Blood Pact is controversial but the irony is that it was fixed in the English version.
Edited by mariovsonic999 on Jan 18th 2021 at 1:35:58 AM
Duscur already belongs to the Kingdom or rather Kleiman and they will fight for Dimitri if he consolidates enough power to become King like in CF and AM. In VW and SS they would follow Dimitri because of Dedue, whom I established as an problematic character with my hot take.
An VW with more Almyra would make the story more complex but also a lot more difficult because we currently live in an Era where people are scared of Brown people taken over the world, so maybe that could have prevented them from fully developing that nation or even making the conflict religious to begin with. Claude was supposed to be darker than he is in the final product, but he was always going to be an Hero you cannot hate.
Extended script. Yune wonders why people believe they have to be chosen by the Goddess to be happy and despite Lekain betraying and manipulating so many people he was in his final moments full of doubts. Any reasonable person would have concluded that he wanted to win and dying at the hands of people he deemed inferior must have hurt his pride more than anything else.
Duscur people are integrated in the Kingdom. How much is ???
One of the White NP Cs on Blue Lions even states they have a distant Duscue ancestor.
Aside from Claude, I don't think the game really delves into how mixed marriages are viewed.
Byleth sort of counts, if we view them as a child of Humankind and Dragonkind, because they fulfill their role.
But until the end, most people see Byleth as a human with friends in high places, not a true hybrid.
Edelgard (+ Hubert I guess) do see Byleth as an hybrid of sorts if memory serves me right, and at the end of CF she even admits that's why she gave up on recruiting them during Part 1 since she couldn't wrap her head around the idea of Byleth fighting their family/blood kin.
Edited by Blackress on Jan 20th 2021 at 7:46:20 PM
Yes thats right, Edelgard only makes any kind of connection when they get glowing Green Hair though since she refuses to believe in the Goddess otherwiae, so they make a dissonanace between "Human" Byleth(No glowing hair) and Byleth being Nabataen (Glowing Green Hair).
Even though genetically nothing changed. Sothis just fused her power with them.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jan 20th 2021 at 5:54:40 AM
What about Byleth being able to hibernate when being exposed to near-death experiences? Flayn in Silver Snow lowkey suggests that's something Nabateans are capable of doing, which is why both her and Seteth consider Byleth part of their family (granted, that could also be a side effect of Sothis's power).
Oh yeah, the hibernation part is something neither know about.
Edited by Blackress on Jan 20th 2021 at 8:53:46 PM
Edelgard nor Hubert doesnt know about that.
Since the onky things that visually separate them is green hair+ pointed ears, which they hide.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jan 20th 2021 at 6:32:23 AM
I figured most people would see Byleth as a human blessed by Sothis. Also, both El and Claude comment on Byleth falling asleep after the fusion as being a side effect of them getting the minty hair, yet when you meet them post-timeskip, they don't intially believe that Byleth slept for five years. (Byleth technically speaking was always part-Nabatean, so would they be able to hibernate before the fusion?..)
Sothis does say Byleth would die after time resumes at the beginning of the game, so there's that.
Byleth is genetically mixed, but on a societal level, nobody can tell. Plus, Byleth him/herself had no idea about it either, for a good chunk of their life. As far as mixed race representation goes, theirs is not a particularly strong example.
Claude/Khalid is definitely better representation of mixed race. He grew up in one culture, then spent his late adolescence & early adulthood in the other. He felt discrimination in Almyra from those who knew his heritage, but he could just as easily pass as a native in Fódlan if nobody asks questions, despite his darker skin (since nobody in Garreg Mach, not even Cyril, can immediately tell he's Almyran, only that he has odd behaviours here and there). I imagine that, since Fódlan has so many preconceptions about eastern "barbarians", nobody can tell Claude is Almyran because he's not the cartoony stereotype they imagine.
By the way, I don't know if this is a common idea but... surely a prequel starring Claude's parents could work really well, right? It's definitely one of those unexplored sides of the story that I feel could have an entire campaign/story dedicated to it, likely taking place mostly in Almyra (there's even room to introduce new Divinities to the lore).
"prequel starring Claude's parents" - we've discussed that before, and YES PLEASE. And yes, that would allow for new lore without messing around with what's already in 3H, or a different perspective. (Also probably no multiple routes, which is good, they definitely need a break from this.)
Edited by YnK on Jan 20th 2021 at 12:15:39 PM
I wish there to be an entire game about Khalid and his story in Almyra. It's larger than Fódlan according to Cyril and there is a lot they could do,plus unlike with Edelgard and Dimitri, an Almyra setting would bring novelty to the series with new classes and even different perspectives regarding Fódlan and other places, maybe they can explain why Almyra is in war with Fódlan rather than having the player to make the explaination for them. As for his they didn't figured out Claude, maybe there exists no racial profiling in Fódlan, which is a good thing, because the only sort of people who do that are Edelgard and the Agarthans.
An prequel about Khalid's father would be cool, but how is the romance system going to function if he has an harem? He would be the first lord to have multiple wives if he were to be one. Personally I am for an sequel in Almyra with Khalid.
I would also want to see some sacred weapons from the Almyrans side that are unique to them and even have some Fódlan Immigrants in there as protagonists and antagonists. If wel done we get the "Oriental" Fire Emblem game that Kaga always wanted to do, but never could.
Also for some Love towards Khalid, here are some cute picture made by Kynimdraws and her friend rorvk :
https://64.media.tumblr.com/eea5ebcec29b6e691eafcabcfde69b2d/adfb34abe15f785e-1b/s1280x1920/7b35ce45a6378b0d485604bdebee47e07b15de88.pnj Vampire Bhudda can still keep the name Kemal if he wants
https://64.media.tumblr.com/0dcf149c242bbebc682417087655ae15/tumblr_py7xw9Sdpj1qivgnso1_1280.pnj Khalid needed an beard, that would have been cool and maybe raise his Charm stat
https://64.media.tumblr.com/554de8eb98f07ac2d28040924e9fafd7/tumblr_pweqhaU4Ho1qivgnso2_1280.pnj Since there is no Kid Claude/Khalid in the game, we take this as canon art! Agreed?
Edited by Tropetalker on Jan 20th 2021 at 10:06:43 AM
What is this about a harem? We don't know much about the Almyran King, but if Tiana von Riegan is the Queen of Almyra (and she definitely is, according to Claude&Hilda's paired ending), that implies she's the only wife, no?
(Regardless, I'd imagine Tiana would be one of the main lords, so the pairing would be set in stone, like Alm&Celica, or Marth&Caeda)
In such a prequel, I'd love to see some characters that have gone faceless up until this point, like Margrave Edmund or Count Gloucester, even if just as cameos (but sadly not Holst, as he would be too young).
But mostly, I'd just love to finally see a middle eastern style Fire Emblem.
The developer interview says that Claude has a bunch of half-siblings, so Tiana isn't the only person who shares the Great Khan's bed. Now, the Great Khan loved her enough to marry the daughter of the enemy who is disdained throughout Almyra, so either she's the head wife, or she's his wife and the others are concubines. But she still has to share him.
What if it is he who has to share her with the harem?
I'd personally like a game starring the Empire's past rulers and all that but I'd get boos. XD.
But just hoping the next lord is a mage type. I still like Adrestia's aesthetic, and I do love my Dark bishop Hubert.
I think his harem is only there to establish diplomatic ties with the other clans and houses. Thinking about it, I would not be surprised if some of the Moms and uncles alongside the siblings tried to kill young Khalid and the priests(Monks or whatever religious/spiritual authority exists in Almyra)preach how evil Crests are because they are from Fódlan as well as some average citizen calling him half-breed.
Do you know what is interested too? Edelgard's father also had an harem as well, showing how little Fódlan differentiate from those so called "beasts".
They really shouldn't have left all that mysterious and explain some stuff, all of it would make good support convos and flashbacks.
Tiana having fun with Almyran women is now an awesome idea for an fanfic, man we should write an alternative version of the GD story and call it Golden Star or just Verdant Wind.
We had Micaiah and to an lesser extend Celica, remember? Though the former is as divisive as Edelgard.
Edited by Tropetalker on Jan 22nd 2021 at 12:53:59 PM
I don't know, I don't think Micaiah's decisions were quite as bad as Edelgard's, especially since Micaiah had to make some of her decisions with a massive Sword of Damocles hanging over her head in the form of a blood pact.
Well, technically, there's Byleth since they have some reason to wield magic.
Pretty hard to justify with that spell list, and Enlightened One being sword-oriented, though. I guess a F!Byleth could run Dark Flier, but that's more a function of Dark Flier just being utterly busted as a class.
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