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MOD NOTE: TROPES BLANKET-BANNED FROM HAVING VIDEO EXAMPLES:


It's been discussed a lot at the Video Uploading thread that a lot of poor videos are slipping through the cracks, and that a clean-up effort is necessary if we are to combat the problem.

Common issues are:

  • Videos spoiling major events from a work
  • Videos not actually fitting the trope they're attached to
  • Videos in which the important part doesn't happen until halfway through, with the length being ultimately pointless
  • Videos that use the entire work, breaking copyright; this can be done either with one video showcasing an entire short video, or multiple videos that add up to using the entire work in piecemeal.
  • Videos lacking the proper media source, or any media source at all.
  • General quality problems, like audio issues or artifacting.

Videos must also be actual videos — a video file containing a static image or slideshow (e.g. a sequence of comic panels) should not be approved.

So, we've got our work cut out for us; but this is at least a place to discuss problems and come to solutions.

Some helpful links:

Please take video moderation requests to this thread.

Edited by WarJay77 on Nov 19th 2024 at 9:27:05 AM

IndubitablyLeft Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#1851: Jul 28th 2021 at 11:38:56 AM

The description of the 'Blu Tries To Kiss Jewel' video in Surprisingly Realistic Outcome has a sentence of justifying natter on it.

Also, I'm not entirely convinced it fits since I'd say (hope) a good percentage of people would not think kissing someone you just met would go any way other than badly, even in fiction.

Vandagyre I think I just got AC team loyalty from Dacardia (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
I think I just got AC team loyalty
#1852: Jul 31st 2021 at 5:30:45 PM

"Cynthia Velasquez" on Stringy-Haired Ghost Girl is too badly artifaced to make anything out.

Cave Johnson, we're done here.
Pokemon439 Since: Mar, 2020
#1853: Jul 31st 2021 at 7:11:32 PM

So on the Video Source page how many video examples does a work need to get it’s own subpage roughly speaking? Because I think we might need another one at some point for the movie Rio and well the reason why I asked this here is because I am in general pretty bad at creating new pages on any wiki.

Edited by Pokemon439 on Jul 31st 2021 at 7:13:03 AM

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1854: Jul 31st 2021 at 8:09:36 PM

On [Trope Name], there's two videos that I think are there by mistake — "SwaySway and Buhduece’s feud" and "The Walrus and the Carpenter." I assume the former is meant for something like Feud Episode, but unsure of where the latter goes — maybe Screw This, I'm Outta Here!?

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
JLeaffff Since: Jan, 2019
#1855: Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:30:57 PM

A video example on A Series of Unfortunate Events (2017) titled " Olaf's Death" for Dies Wide Open contains a HUGE spoiler in the title and thumbnail (I'm even spoiling it here just to be safe). The title and thumbnail needs to be changed.

Edited by JLeaffff on Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:34:24 AM

Theatre_Maven_3695 from Ontario, Canada (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
#1856: Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:39:48 PM

Or just remove it entirely, tbh. Videos don't get Spoilers Off treatment even for Death Tropes, iirc.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1857: Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:43:03 PM

Which I admittedly always found kind of silly. People need to choose to watch a certain video. If they know it's for a work they don't want to spoil and they see it's a death trope, then that's all the information they need to not watch it. So I think changing the title and thumbnail is a perfectly valid move- nothing else needed.

Also, Spoilers Off means spoiler tags off, not "no spoilers at all". Unless you're talking about Recap pages, which do mean "no spoilers at all", because consistency is for losers I guess.

Edited by WarJay77 on Aug 2nd 2021 at 11:43:32 AM

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1858: Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:44:21 PM

I'm pretty sure we can use spoilery videos if the thumbnail, description, and the title have a warning.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#1859: Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:49:25 PM

[up][up] I think it's because video autoplay is on by default.

WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1860: Aug 2nd 2021 at 8:50:59 PM

But only if you're on the work page (in which you already know there might be spoilers) or the trope page (in which you're willingly on a spoileriffic page). I mean, you can also access these videos through the actual videos tab, and they only auto-play if they're the first one.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Agent2583 Secret Agent2583 from [CLASSIFIED] Since: Sep, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Secret Agent2583
#1861: Aug 3rd 2021 at 2:02:44 AM

Because Death Tropes tend to have all spoiler tags off, there is no problem with having videos showcasing deaths...

SithPanda16 Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: I know
#1862: Aug 3rd 2021 at 8:26:03 AM

So for the Trope Our Vampires Are Different, I found one video that may not be very safe for work. The video example titled "Murnau and Valentino" features an NSFW orgy scene. The sequence starts at 1:51

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1863: Aug 3rd 2021 at 11:07:27 AM

This is totally on me and I apologize, but I just realized the video I uploaded for But I Can't Be Pregnant! is watermarked (separate from the CW channel bug)...

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1864: Aug 3rd 2021 at 11:16:16 AM

I have a question about a video I uploaded that was just approved. I had doubts uploading it but I feel like I should be upfront.

It's a video partly from In the Heights but I couldn't find any legally-uploaded performance of the opening song. I used a different production as my source, it doesn't seem to be Broadway, but I'm not positive about the usage policy? It's a snippet of a longer version that was taken down apparently, but the video was split up and dubbed with covers of the songs and is now standing without having been taken down. (See pinned comment on the link)

So is this video safe to use or is it too copyright-wonky?

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
eroock Since: Sep, 2012
#1865: Aug 3rd 2021 at 2:23:24 PM

Any one else feeling the video for Jar Potty is missing the mark?

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1866: Aug 3rd 2021 at 2:28:12 PM

[up] I think it technically fits but it's missing a source.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
jandn2014 SMILE! from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
SMILE!
#1867: Aug 3rd 2021 at 3:28:54 PM

Might be a case where the work its from doesn't have a page.

Edited by jandn2014 on Sep 27th 2021 at 8:40:01 AM

mightymewtron Word Up from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Word Up
#1868: Aug 3rd 2021 at 8:12:13 PM

The Game Grumps video on Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy uses more than half of the original video. It could easily be used by cutting the video down, but I'm not quite sure if it's the right trope either since I don't recall if the character is specifically a bad guy (it may better fit A-Team Firing).

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
WarJay77 It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000) from My Writing Cave (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
It's NaNo, Bay-beeee! (3,795/50,000)
#1869: Aug 3rd 2021 at 8:15:48 PM

Ha, I knew which video it was even before I checked.

Yeah, it's A-Team Firing.

Working on: Author Appeal | Sandbox | Troper Wall
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#1870: Aug 5th 2021 at 10:56:17 AM

Is it possible for me to request the removal of this video example?

It's the "And That's Checkmate" video on Downer Ending and The Bad Guy Wins (it seems to have been uploaded to both tropes at the same time, about a month ago).

It contains enormous spoilers for both characters and even the setting itself, so that's the first big problem.

The second problem might be even bigger: Back in April, a troper tried to Edit War Downer Ending for ending the video relates to. As a result, it ended up going through the episode recap's discussion page, ATT and Is This An Example? (I collated all the links and votes here). The consensus was that it was a "Ray of Hope" Ending, so that's what it's been troped as.

I don't know if it's possible to tell which troper uploaded the video, but I've just noticed that the troper who originally edit warred made another post to the discussion page in June reiterating their belief it's a Downer Ending, and they've sneaked the entry onto the DownerEnding.Web Original page (they haven't touched the RWBY work pages where they did the original edit war).

So, I'm just to off the ATT to raise the edit war over there (Edit: posted here). But, I am wondering if the same troper is the one who's uploaded this video, or someone who has no idea about this history.

Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 5th 2021 at 7:27:27 PM

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#1872: Aug 5th 2021 at 5:03:32 PM

I misread the pinned post on that thread and posted here instead. I'll repost it there. Thanks for the flag.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
RainbowPumpqueen R A T (she/her) from Kalos Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
R A T (she/her)
#1873: Aug 7th 2021 at 11:03:08 PM

Sorry if this is irrelevant, but what kind of stuff is used to make video examples? I'm asking because I don't have any editing software and thus no editing skills, yet I want to post video examples myself, such as an Anger Born of Worry example from the official Ask Frisk and Company dub from this bit.

Feel free to help with the sandbox or edit my troper wall
Mavado from Sweden Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#1874: Aug 7th 2021 at 11:11:00 PM

Personally I use Xbox Game Bar (press Win + G in Windows) to record screen capture, followed by editing it (usually just trimming it) in OpenShot Video Editor (since it's free).

Others have mentioned using OBS, Awesome Screenshot and youtube-dl to get footage.

Agent2583 Secret Agent2583 from [CLASSIFIED] Since: Sep, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Secret Agent2583
#1875: Aug 8th 2021 at 2:31:25 AM

[up] I use Game Bar too, but I rarely edit unless necessary.


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